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getting used to disposables

Posted by lp on 07/11/10


Hey all,
So I've been tattooing for a few years now, and have always been using stainless steel tubes and grips at 1", with Red Rat grip covers. I'm used to the inch and a half or so diameter now as my hands get tired quite easily without them.

I'm going to be going on the road, and doing some guest spots coming up. I thought I'd better get used to disposables... but I can't get used to them yet. With the stainless steel, my lines are solid and even, fills go in smoothly. With the disposables, I only got one or two tattoos in and stopped because I couldn't get the quality work with them! The vibrations were overwhelming and caused my hands to shake, and attempting to fill solid black was so frustrating and uneven.

How do you/did you get used to disposables, without turning out less-than-par tattoos in the meantime? Is there a way to change the set-up slightly to reduce these troubles? I want to keep my level of quality but still be clean and safe as I travel. Any tips would be appreciated thanks!



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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by briann on 08/29/10


my posts only make sense to you when you learn how to tattoo.for me youre a scratcher


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Posted by scratch on 08/29/10


Hmm. first time in 13 years of tattooing I've been called a scratcher. Guess I'll quit tattooing. Hey, Brian, do you have a website so I can direct all my clients to it? I'm sure when they find out they've been getting tattooed by a scratch artist all these years they're gonna want to check you out. duh duh duh douche bag.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by gabesantiago on 08/30/10


haha is it just me or did that comment about the storing the volts for later remind anyone about cingulars roll over minutes, like the ones you dont use in a month roll over so you have extra volts to use when the cycle starts again..? no? okay funny only to me i guess... anyway i was using the sumo tubes because of the 1 1/2 grip buuuuutttt i have recently been pushed tword another tube by a friend, the tubes that mithra sells come in a damn tough plastic with almost nooooo bend at all. no sag on the machine when tilting it back and no power drop on your machines performance when you squeeze the grip. their white tubes you can get through mithra strong plastic check them out, if you need a bigger grip fold up a paper towel length wise and wrap it around your grip hold i together with some medical tape works great. probably puts a 1" grip to 1 1/2


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Greg on 08/30/10


I must say that one advantage of being a newer tattoo artist is that I learned to tattoo with disposables,specifically the generic white ones and the blue technical..The few times I used stainless steel i loved em,lol..it stopped a lot of vibration and seemed to make the whole set up run smoother..but the process of cleaning dirty tubes and the higher potential of cross contamination is something Im trying to avoid..i cringe at the thought that a lot of artists don't properly clean there tubes..and it happens way more than you wanna think..epicdermis was on point about people not doin basic common sense cross contamination prevention..


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by InkStained on 08/30/10


Gabe.. I thought the same thing so dont feel bad.
Tatsoul is coming out with 1 1/2" wrath tubes soon. Ive been using the Wrath tubes for a few weeks now.. There is nothing even CLOSE to these out there.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by hendricksontattoo on 08/30/10


they coming out with 1.5? Ive aked them about that a few times through emails but no response. I hope so my hand cramps instantly with 1 inch grips.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Memo on 08/30/10


I like the idea that GabeSantiago suggested about wrapping a paper towel with tape around the tube to add weight and girth. I always wanted to try the rubber grip covers to see if it had the same effect but I can't imagine wasting all those grip covers after each use to be a practical idea.

I wonder why none of these disposables have plastic filled thru the hollow part of the disposable tube? It may help with some of the weight issue.


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Posted by Scott76 on 08/30/10


I have been using the Wrath Vortex with the 1in grip i do love them "but" and this may only be me on this one but i dont like how the grip has a ridge on the top and bottom it fucked with my hands after some long jobs, also they get slippy fast i wish they had a knurl instead of the bmx mushroom grip lol, and one more thing i didnt like the tube size under the tube tip it holds ink and fucked with my money finger but other than that they are great and are the best out there but they could be better, not sure about a 1.5 grip for myself would like a 1.1/4 with the specs above.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Gregg G on 08/30/10


I was lucky enough to get some sample of the new FK Irons disposable ergonomic tubes at Hell City Az. I did 5 tattoos and so far I'm sure these tubes will change things around. They are hard as steel and they do not offer any vibration. Almost as tattooing with SS. They also have some weight which I though it was so cool.

I just wish I can order them already but they told me that it might take a bit until they hit the market.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Ryan on 08/31/10


I think the tatsoul wraith tubes are the same manufacturer man, I'd give them a shot till the fk disposables come around.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by shadow on 08/31/10


Thanks for the heads up on fk comin out with grips. That's a cool surprise to look forward to. I been totally hooked on those morphix humbolt grips. Are theses ones you're talkin about shaped anything like those?6


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Inkstained on 08/31/10


FK has disposables??? I wasn't aware of that. I've got 3 Fki machines and he never mentioned anything. I know Gastons attention to detail and quality so I'm pretty anxious to see those. I'm still a little uncomfortable lining with disposables, i still use SS for lining occasionally.
I like the idea of filling the the empty space with a heavier material. I also thought of some type of metal ring clamp that could be put around a grip to balance it.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Peter on 08/31/10


I don't think those FK tubes are out but Gaston was kind enough to include some samples when I purchased my last machine. They are really comfortable and great to work with. Hope to order some soon.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by shadow on 08/31/10


Ha ha. I get the feeling these are supposed to be a secret? I just got an FK a few weeks ago and mine didn't come with those. (boo hoo. just kidding) . Do you guys use disposables in the shop a lot too? Or just on the road/convention style? I know some people were talking about using them for whites and things of that nature cause of staining, but honestly it just seems like one more thing to run out of. Am I missing some great advantage here? I'm not a set in my ways kinda guy, but it needs to make sense. thanks


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Memo on 08/31/10


I only use disposables now, it took sometime to get used to them. I used SS but the shop I ended up working for used only disposables and I couldn't afford buying a new one or keep up with maintaining one. It's acceptable up here in OR to be a disposable only shop.

Over time I adjusted and adapted and have seen that they maybe more cost effective and cleaner than using SS. You gotta pay for this and that and scrub the shit out of every little hiding place where dry pigment can be.

As for staining the white, well you have a higher chance at staining it if you didnt scrub the tube well enough with SS than with a fresh new disposable. I have a straight white set up when I need it. but I don't mind staining my whites when I use them for certain highlights.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by shadow on 08/31/10


Thanks man, but I think there was a tiny bit of confusion. The staining is from the needles moving at a high rate and wearing on SS tubes not from old ink. I haven't had this happen in many years though. As far as cost effective, I don't know. I have tubes I bought 6 years ago and are still running strong save for a few tips that wore out. I don't know, I get that cleaning sucks, maybe I just don't notice after all these years. Actually, after the ultrasonic, its really just rinse, dry, bag. Thanks for the input thpugh, it'll come in handy next time I go outta 63.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by shadow on 08/31/10


Last words were "outta town". Damned smart phone thinks its smarter than me. It just might be.


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