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Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by tommygun on 08/20/10


Dear Starbrite Users,

Our company Tommys Supplies has changed our clear caps to black twist caps to prevent less leakage running down the side of the bottle of our Starbrite Brand. We are also working on a new label so you can wipe off any spills on the bottle and youll be able to read the the descriptions that have been covered. Tommys Supplies has gone through many steps, meeting with fda consultants, testing on our Starbrite Inks, Sterilizing all our colors, etc&to make our inks as safe as possible. Weve been legalized in every country do to our hard work and knowledge to prove to all these health departments that our colors are safe and free of bacteria when leaving our shop, that being said, we. have met all FDA and health requirements!!! Tommys Supplies just wants to let all our loyal customers know that we are constantly on top of things to make sure you and your clients have know worries when purchasing our Starbrite Colors and we will constantly meet all health and safety rules they throw at us.
There is a lot of fake Starbrite Inks coming from China and are being sold on Ebay, Craigslist, etc& Please we do not recommend anyone buying off any of these generic online sites. Starbrite has been very popular for many years and with that you have companies trying to copy them to put a profit in there pockets and destroy the actual companies that have put years of preparation and money into making such a trusting, clean, and safe product, so we want to make our customers aware of this counterfeit that has been going on for quite some time now. Please educate anyone buying on these generic sites that it is a very bad idea for they might not be getting the true Starbrite Brand and they will not be happy with the results along with not having a claen and sterile product. Also please check our website to see our label deisigns at www.tommyssupplies.com to see if you have the right Starbrite Inks. We are working with health departments in all countries to try and stop these companies from selling crap inks and other products that may damage the human body. Thank you for taking the time to read this and hopefully it will stop a lot of people buying from Ebay and all those sorts of sights.

Sincerely
Tom Ringwalt / Owner
Tommys Supplies
sales@tommyssupplies.com



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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by Epicdermis on 08/21/10


Do you make the ink that can do a portrait in 1 hour?

Sorry, I couldnt help it. Bad joke carrying over from another thread.

Kudos on the testing though Tommy. Product improvement should always be appreciated.


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by ChrisDowning on 08/21/10


I meant copy, not knock off.


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by anthony on 08/21/10


hey man, im not picking a fight with you or anything... but people are just going to be confused. both websites claim to be the original creators of starbrite colors. in a way i guess you both are, but it's still going to confuse people. it is what it is.

please don't refrain from posting on here and other places too... if you didn't than id be one of those confused people as well.


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by hooligan on 08/22/10


yes chris downing is absolutely right !!! DO NOT and i repeat DO NOT EDUCATE your customers .
coming from a slogan that states " MOST tattoos start at $ 40 " and $ 13 friday the 13 tattoos ...........................
wal mart of what you say ?
meh .


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by sowhat on 08/22/10


Hey chris, last time i checked just about every machine builder out there copys frame designs, wtf is your point !? Take a look at seths machines, hes well respected and 95 percent of his machines are copys of classic designs, its not very impressive but noone rags on him. Theres alot of double standards in the world of tattooing surrounding machines....same people that are crying about chinese copying their machines are the ones that have made their name ripping off classic designs. No sympathy for the devil.

And about the made in china BS.. can you honestly say that you tattoo with 100 percent american made supplys ? Nope. didint think so. Just about all disposables are MIC, im pretty sure the capacitors on every machine ever made were most likely MIC. etc..........................


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by ChrisDowning on 08/22/10


Context Hooligan, context. We no longer do Friday the 13th tattoos, we started doing them about 5 years ago but we stopped having fun with them last year so just don't do it anymore. Most tattoos starting at $40 refers to ONE day, next Saturday, when we are doing traditional tattoos "traditional prices".

Neither of those days are about us making money, they are about us having some fun and giving a little something back to our customers. They are not slogans. Its the one day a year you can come to our shop and actually get a deal.

I realize perfectly well that almost every builder out there copys from an old frame at some point. Weather as a tribute or because of the time tested geometry or whatever.

Tommy put the challenge out there, that nothing was copied from anyone on his website. So I checked and he is a liar, its fine to copy shit, but give credit where credit is due. I suppose Tommys supply developed those swiss/stealth style rotary machines in house too? Look at some of the pictures of the standard coil machines, the contact screw isn't even touching the spring in some of them, thats not even going into the mountain of design flaws, the fucking circuit isn't even complete.

Just another supplier out there to take money out of tattooing, not giving a damn thing back.

Sterilized ink and FDA testing I'm sure will be law, because suppliers and big ink manufactures are pushing for it. Sterilized ink only stays that way until you open it, so I really don't care if it is shipped to me that way or not. Out of hundreds of bottles of ink over the years I think I have had a problem with 1 bottle that may or may not have been fixed if it had been sterilized. I prefer to use supplies that are time tested and rather than regulated. If you don't know enough not to get bootleg ink you get what you deserve.

Down here we have dudes who sell meat door to door out of little pick up trucks with coolers on the back. If you eat that shit and get sick,it's your fault. Thats what you get for buying meat out of some dudes truck.

My machines, power supply, tubes, ink caps, inks, are all made in america. My needles are probably outa china, I get them from kingpin since I stopped making my own about 5 years ago. No idea where the rest of my disposables come from. But none of that is tattoo specific so I don't care as much.

My customers are plenty educated. Aftercare, cleanliness, the correct questions to ask when they go into a shop, how to spot good tattoo work, how to choose a design they will be happy with and fit their body. They don't need to be educated about inks, or any other technical information. If they are asking the right questions and they are getting honest answers from their tattooer they have nothing to worry about. I am so sick of educating the public when most tattooers don't have a clue either.

Oh and Hooligan, if you want to call me out on some shit, at least be man enough to post with your actual name.


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by SUre on 08/22/10


One thing I'm sure of after reading the drama about Starbrite is that now I will no longer buy Starbrite period!. Two partners that took off, two same product that at the same time is not the same. Give me a break.

Fusions rock.


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by shadow on 08/22/10


Dude, you know Fusion is made by a guy who left Eternal, right? Just , sayin...


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by ChrisDowning on 08/22/10


Yeah it is, but he didn't call it eternal. Thats an old story though, thats where a lot of the inks out there came from, people leaving other mixers with recipes and starting their own companies.


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by tommygun on 08/22/10


I appreciate everyone that stands by us and if you want to get updates on what our company is doing to make sure our inks stay very safe, clean, and all else, please add us as a friend at www.facebook.com/tommyssupplies or www.myspace.com/tommyssupplies. I find that some artist twist things way to much on the forums and likes to start shit for they have nothing better to do. I was not bashing on anyone but trying to keep the industry aware of things and it is people like this that ruin the industry for we have been in it for over 20 years and have always got possitive feed back on our loyalty for we do care more about the people then our wallets and artist that have known us for some time now know this 100%. For any more updates with us please check us on facebook or myspace.

sorry for the comosion wasn't my intentions
Tom


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by hooligan on 08/22/10


educating YOUR customers on ink brands is a lil absurd . tommys educating its customers is a whole diff ball game !
oh yeah ... hooligan aka brian @ Impulse Body Mod.
rip it up ...


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by Gina on 08/23/10


I think it's ok to eat meat out of a truck as long as it isn't imported from China.


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by 123 on 08/23/10


now i m not sure where to get my starbrite from i always been using Papillion for years n i was going to order from tommy n then i saw this fourm now i not so sure who to order from . by the way tommy do u supply to Japan pls let me know. cos i really like starbrite alot n i just want to made sure i got the right stuff of ink . don get me wrong after so many years i give n try i always stick to starbrite . i not saying other ink r bad as i use 1 or 2 ink from other brand. but i just want to use the same old starbrite as i use before n would like to know if they r still the same ink . i don know care i order from Papillion or tommy i just want to know if is the same .

Sorry for the bad english. i just wantto clear it out .


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by tommygun on 08/23/10


Yes it is the same the difference is we Sterilize our colors and meet FDA demands in USA along with Europe, Brazil, and Canada. Yes we do ship to Japan just email sales@tommyssupplies.com.

Sincerely
Tom


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by Solomon on 08/23/10


I know we all have our opinions on the subject of the chinese made knockoff machines. I realize that the machines you choose to sell dont seem to be, at a glance frame rip offs of current builders. So after I looked at the 50-60 dollar machines you have for sale on your website and have a couple of questions I would like to ask.

1. Do you feel that these machines should be purchased by professional tattoo artists that care about the tattoos they do, that have passion for the industry and love for their art.

2. Do you feel that they are High Quality tattoo machines as advertised?

3. Do you feel that those machines are on par with the quality of ink that Starbrite is. I say this because I beleive people look at those machines, and look at Starbrite ink and put the two next to each other and in their own minds categorize them as equals in terms of quality, because they are sold next to each other.

4. Do you beleive the people that make those machines care about tattooing or customers as much as you do?

5. And lastly, do you feel that its right for us as professional tattoo artists to try and keep "professional" tattoo equipment out of the hands of people that tattoo without any experience, guidance, safety regs, and supervision of any kind?

For the record, I use alot of Starbrite colors, I use Fusion Eternal, and Waverly as well. I have always stood up for Starbrite quality to those who dismissed it casually, without any other reason but something they were told. I am gonna be honest with you though and say that I dont like the fact that Tommy sells those machines, I know that the needles and caps etc. are also likely from China. I honestly feel the cheap no good Chinese machines are one of the major gateways that people with no business tattooing, get into the business of scarring people up. And lastly I would really like to see us find a way to keep our money here in the United States of America!

kadillac-man@hotmail.com

www.myspace.com/solomontattoos

email addy incase anyone wants to look me up on facebook and of course myspace.


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by tommygun on 08/23/10


i would be happy to answer these questions.

Question #1 - These machines should not be used by a professional artist unless they rebuild the machines themselves. Also you will see that 99% of our products are Professional name brand stuff. These machines were purchased on Professional Artists requests to have a lower grade product for apprentices to use on practice skins and so fourth. This way if they burn out or ruin the machine cause they do not know how to run them yet then they would have only lost $40.00 not $300.00.

Question #2 - Yes I think they are high quality not professional quality because we tune up all the lower grade machines before leaving our shop ourselves and replace any parts that need be.

Question #3 - Of course there not on par with Starbrite but this is why they are 40.00 not 300.00, Professional Artists should know the difference between these 2 price ranges and like I said I tune them up for Tattoo apprentices who are being taught under a Professional Tattooer.

Question #5 - Absolutely. I dont think anyone should be tattooing unless they are apprenticing under a Professional Artist. Its is extremely hard and complicated to try and figure out who is professional and who is not for alot of towns and states do not need licences, doctors, etc. I deal with health departments all the time and most of them dont have a clue, so if they dont then they wont have strict regulations in there town. This is why I was writing on the forum to try and educate Professional Artists about there surroundings. I have been in the business along time and have a lot of knowlege of it in which i am trying to share that, but I get shitted on for it.

These forums are suppose to help and educate people but instead you have people waiting for a topic to smash on. Thats not me and im willing to take ideas and comments from other artist to make us the most Professional Tattoo Suppliers in the world. I work with all the other big brands in the world Eternal, Intenze, SilverBack, etc, and we all get along, meet up at conventinos, have fun, drink, talk, no bullshit. Haters can hate me all they want becasue they are the ones that have never met me or know me but can talk shit about me, does,t make sense but they can have there opinions I guess.

Hope some of this was helpful
Tom


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by Solomon on 08/23/10


Thnks for takin the time out to answer those questions. I definately see where you are coming from, and appreciate a perspective I did not take the time to realize before. I definately feel for all those that get ridiculed needlessly and blamed for things out of their control. I will continue to use Starbrite and feel that is being manufactured by people who come from some integrity.

thnks again,

Solomon.


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by Eriksenn on 08/23/10


Tommy... Fuck the haters! Keep on keepin on, as they say. StarBrite is as good as anything out there and better than most. I , for one, appreciate the candid nature of your posts, and am glad you frequent this site. I use Intenze, Eternal, Silverback, Alla Prima, StarBrite (from you) and even some National and Mom's. As artists, we all have our color palette that works for us, and have grown to like certain colors from certain brands, that complement our individual styles. Starbrite has never failed me, and I will continue to use your product... Brite orange, crimson red, lite red and steel blue are some of my favorites. Not to mention the radness that is canary yellow...


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RE:Fake Starbrite Inks

Posted by tommygun on 08/23/10


Thanks Bro well appreciated from all!!!


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StarBrite vs. Starbrite

Posted by Dread from IP: 71.209.242.122 on 02/17/16
Prescott, arizona United States - website


What is the difference between Starbrite, with a lower case 'b' and StarBrite, with an upper case 'B'?


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