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uv ink

Posted by mainst on 11/04/10


i've got a long time customer wanting a black light tattoo i have never used that type of ink before because of safety of it . any thoughts or exp. thanks



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RE:uv ink

Posted by Reed on 11/04/10


These pigments are made by infusing plastic (perspex) with a fluorescent dye, and then grinding the plastic to a fine powder (pigment) The dyes are water soluble so once the plastic starts to degrade due to UV degradation, 10 years or so, the dye is released and absorbed into the body leaving a brittle plastic powder under the skin. Got this info from @mystic hope he does not mind but this stuff is poision.


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RE:uv ink

Posted by coreypopp on 11/04/10


Glad to hear that description. We get people ask about it every now and then. I've never used it because i didn't think it was safe, but now i know why. Good to know.


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Posted by mainst on 11/04/10


thanks for the reply I've always steered clear of this stuff because of safety issues.I get calls almost daily about "glow in the dark" ink. That stuff just scares me and i not chasing dollars I'm in the business for the long haul and care about my customers heath and safety .


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RE:uv ink

Posted by chris van r on 11/04/10


first off there's a big difference between black light and glow in the dark. there are alot of things that glow under black light that aren't toxic. if you have any old starbright orange in tattoos, it may react to black lights...i had a friend that noticed this in one of his old tattoos.
i've used the black light stuff a couple times many many years ago[when you had to get it through a chemist] and found it a real pain in the ass. as a color it looks very washy on it's own and you need a black light to check it while your working...which means more glove changes/hand washing.
as for safety, it may depend on the brand. i remember seeing one not too long ago that claimed that it had fda approval or something...didn't really pay attention because it's not something i'm personally interested in. to feel comfortable, as with anything, do your research.


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Posted by white on 11/04/10


What inks have FDA approval ?? company names ????????/


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Posted by scmack krane on 11/04/10


FDA Approval on inks . YO @chris v .please do tell about these inks that have FDA approval . Or are you talking out of your ..... The food and drug administration does not regulate ink smart guy . But they should .


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RE:uv ink

Posted by Epicdermis on 11/04/10


The FDA approved a blacklight reactive ink for marking seafood, NOT for tattooing. That is where the confusion comes into play, since apparently some people have used this ink for blacklight tattooing thinking that it was FDA approved safe for human consumption. In reality, It was FDA approved simply for the purpose of stamping fish with market info, time and date, location caught.....etc. and is meant to be thoroughly washed off prior to preparation after purchasing. It is usually stamped on a part that is discarded during the preparation, such as a shell or fin in order to minimize the risk of it making into the final dish.

The danger in uv reactive inks is in the phosphates they contain, which in large doses have been shown to be possibly carcinogenic. Since much of the ink put into the body is actually flushed out via your lymphatic system during healing, the thought is that the phosphates may accumulate in lymph nodes, which are especially prone to cancerous mutations due to their close proximity to toxic foreign material in the body as part of the immune system.

When in doubt, do without. A cheap parlor trick is no reason to jeopardize ones health.


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RE:uv ink

Posted by stephen griffin on 11/04/10


What's up with the fuckin attitudes? Chris said he saw one that CLAIMED to have FDA approval. You guys act like he just insulted your families.


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Posted by mainst on 11/04/10


so did some more looking and there is a site claiming FDA approved ink . reading it's approved in fisheries and the whatnot. but they jump around abit and say they are the only FDA appoved tattoo ink here's the site Chameleon Body Art Supply.com


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RE:uv ink

Posted by Stephen Griffin on 11/04/10


Why do people care about using this ink, anyways? So they can look oh so cool at the next rave and impress all their X soaked friends? I saw a show on Nat Geo where a guy got that shit put right into the whites of his eyes! Color me stupid if I ever bend to the whims of a client and assist them in the destruction of their lives. Anyone who seriously wants that poison in their skin deserves to be tattooed with water and told that every one BUT them can see it cause their own eyes are too close to see the "glowing" ink. Then I could make them a "designer" see through outfit out of the most exotic (and expensive) materials ever known to man.


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Posted by jerk i am on 11/04/10


@stephan #1 i am not starting an argument , I have seen you get upset a few times , and I think this is a result of passion for our respected trade. I know that the FDA is not involved in regulating tattoo inks at this time . ( except this fishery marking ink , and that makes sence it is in the food supply) I don't like misinformation to be spread , it does a dis-service cause people read something on a forum and than spread the word , the incorrect word . This should be something all tattoo artist are well informed about , if they have any moral code of conduct . The public comes to a professional artist and trust that they are safe and that the artist is using a safe product because without the ink there would be no tattoo. I have done plenty of research on the ink I choose to use , and it is manufactured with the German rules put into place in 09' . When the FDA in america puts policy in place there will be no argument . Further a new breed of folks have been coming to this forum in the past weeks and I am tired of the bickering name calling , it is childish . I want you know I am on the same page as you with most of the subjects you speak of . You are clearly smart and I understand your point. I hope you see my point on mis-information . Now lets work together and clear out the negitive vibe .


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RE:uv ink

Posted by Stephen Griffin on 11/04/10


I do understand what you're saying. It only seemed that Chris was gettin slammed just for saying he thought he saw a company that claimed to be FDA approved, but that he didn't pay much attention to it. Seemed more like an afterthought to me, not like a statement of fact. It probably is the influx of shit talkers that compelled me to say something when it sort of seemed undeserving. But you're right about misinformation sucking, for sure.


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RE:uv ink

Posted by fda report on 11/04/10


FDA considers the inks used in intradermal tattoos, including permanent makeup, to be cosmetics and considers the pigments used in the inks to be color additives requiring premarket approval under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act. However, because of other public health priorities and a previous lack of evidence of safety concerns, FDA traditionally has not exercised its regulatory authority over tattoo inks or the pigments used in them. The actual practice of tattooing is regulated by local jurisdictions.
scary.
FDA is aware of more than 150 reports of adverse reactions in consumers to certain permanent make-up ink shades, and it is possible that the actual number of women affected was greater. In addition, concerns raised by the scientific community regarding the pigments used in these inks have prompted FDA to investigate the safe use of tattoo inks. FDA continues to evaluate the extent and severity of adverse events associated with tattooing and is conducting research on inks. As new information is assessed, the agency will consider whether additional actions are necessary to protect public health.

In addition to the reported adverse reactions, areas of concern include tattoo removal, infections that result from tattooing, and the increasing variety of pigments and diluents being used in tattooing. More than fifty different pigments and shades are in use, and the list continues to grow. Although a number of color additives are approved for use in cosmetics, none is approved for injection into the skin. Using an unapproved color additive in a tattoo ink makes the ink adulterated. Many pigments used in tattoo inks are not approved for skin contact at all. Some are industrial grade colors that are suitable for printers' ink or automobile paint


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RE:uv ink

Posted by chris van r on 11/06/10


I AM NOT ENDORSING OR CONDONING THE USE OF THIS...MERELY DEFENDING WHAT I STATED PREVIOUSLY*
HOPE THIS IS ENOUGH INFO FOR YOU NAY-SAYERS

word for word from the information sheet

On this page you will find information on BIOMETRIX System-1000("BMX1000TM") Photonic Marking Formulation Spectral Marking Pigments(SMP)TM being sold as "FireFly Tattoo Ink TM".

Note-these are NOT the "Glow-in-the-Dark" inks that some other companies sell- These inks are the original BIOMETRIX System-1000("BMX1000TM") Photonic Marking Formulation Spectral Marking Pigments(SMP)TM being sold as "FireFly Tattoo Ink TM".

Under normal light, photonic tattoos are normal in colour, but when exposed to a UV("black")light, they will exhibit intense fluorescence.

Fire Fly ink consists of inert microscopic granules with the highest quality dye,suspended in ultra-clean proprietary solution, UV sterilized. They have been carefully formulated to assure biocompatibility and safety, retention and ease of administration.

BIOMETRIX System-1000("BMX1000TM") Photonic Marking Formulation is "state-of-the-art",Spectral Marking Pigments(SMP)TM that have been used since 1995 safely with absolutely NO adverse reactions.

Ingredients of FireFly UV Tattoo Inks: UV sterilized granules of polymethylmethacrylate(PMMA) 97.5% and fluorescent dye 2.5% suspended in distilled water with no preservatives or other additives. These dyes are totally organic and biocompatible, non-carcinogenic, and MRI safe.

PMMA is used in familiar procedures as dental prosthesis, bone repair,eye lenses, orthopedics and in pacemakers, and since 1947 when the first hip prosthesis was introduced. These microspheres are 4-5 times the size of a red blood cell and are well tolerated by human tissue(no rejection). More recently used in the treatment for erasing facial wrinkles.

According to our manufacture's records, this ink received USFDA approval in 1995 for the use in animals,plants and fish for the purpose of tracking migration, growth patterns; breeding habits etc. No other tattoo inks have recived approval in this way. Many fisheries use this ink to "mark" the fish in oceans and the ones raised to stock rivers and ponds.

Furthermore, our manufacturer has advised us they are in the process of updating their FDA record status relating to this product. Seeking FDA approval for general Tattooing. MSDS Sheet available.

The UV inks are used just like any other tattoo ink, though a UV Blacklight Should be used to check the ongoing work.

Material Safety Data Sheet



SECTION 1. Chemical Identification
Product Name: BMX1000 Black-Lite Ink PhotonicMarking Formulation
Chemical Name: Polymethylmethacrylate containing
fluorescent dye.
SECTION 2. Composition/Information on Ingredients
Form: Microspheres suspended in USP grade proprietary
UV sterilized de-ionized water
Composition: Polymethylmethacrylate: 97.5% w; Fluorescent
dye: 2.5% w

SECTION 3. Hazards Identification
LABEL PRECAUTIONARY STATEMENTS: In case of
contact with eyes, rinse immediately with water and seek
medical advice. Wear suitable eye protection.

SECTION 4. First Aid Measures
Eye contact: Immediately wash with water for at least 15 minutes.
If swallowed: Wash out mouth with water provided person is
conscious. Call a physician.

SECTION 5. Fire Fighting Measures
No fire and explosion hazard exists.

SECTION 6. Accidental Release Measures
Mop up, place in appropriate container, and hold for waste disposal.
Wash spill site thoroughly with soap and water after material pickup
is complete.

SECTION 7. Handling and Storage
Store at or above 4 degrees C.
Do not freeze.

SECTION 8. Exposure Controls/Personal Protection
Chemical safety goggles.
Safety shower and eye bath.
Avoid contact with eyes.
Wash thoroughly after handling.
Keep tightly closed.
Store in a cool place


SECTION 9. Physical and Chemical Properties
APPEARANCE: Aqueous suspension of intense red, pink, orange and
other colours including opaque white.
ODOUR: Faint or not detectable.
SOLUBILITY IN WATER: Negligible

SECTION 10. Stability and Reactivity
STABILITY: Stable to temperatures ranging from 4 degrees to 60
degrees C.
INCOMPATIBILITIES: Organic solvents. Temperatures above 60
degree C.
HAZARDOUS COMBUSTION OR DECOMPOSITION PRODUCTS
Toxic fumes of carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide.
HAZARDOUS POLYMERIZATION: Does not polymerize.

SECTION 11. Toxicological Information
ACUTE EFFECTS: May be harmful by ingestion. To the best of our
knowledge, the chemical, physical, and toxicological properties have not
been thoroughly investigated.

SECTION 12. Ecological Information
Data not yet available.

SECTION 13. Disposal Considerations
Dissolve or mix the material with a combustible solvent and burn in a
chemical incinerator equipped with an afterburner and scrubber.
Observe all Federal, State and local environmental regulations.

SECTION 14. Transport Information
Contact Tattoo ink supplies. for information. Aust phone 1300 364 223

SECTION 15. Regulatory Information
Data not available.

SECTION 16. Other Information
The above information is based on data available to us and is believed
to be correct. However, it is not all inclusive and shall be used only as
a guide. Since the information may be applied under conditions beyond
our control and with which we may be unfamiliar, we do not assume any
responsibility for the results of its use. All persons receiving it must make
their own determination of the effects, properties and protections which
pertain to their particular conditions. No representation, warranty, or
guarantee, express or implied (including a warranty of fitness or merchant-
ability for a particular purpose), is made with respect to the materials, the
accuracy of this information, the results to be obtained from the use thereof,
or the hazards connected with the use of the material. Caution should be
used in the handling and use of the material

* i used all caps to show that it was my personal statement and not in the information sheet itself...and yes, i was yelling!


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Posted by Chris R from IP: 96.48.165.116 on 09/20/11
Chilliwack, BC Canada - website


I have used 3 different kinds of UV ink and am currently waiting for a fourth brand that I ordered . I like the effect of the uv ink though it is a lot harder to use then any normal ink.Doesn't matter the manufacturer It seems to take twice as long to heal over tradtional inks . Having been tattooed by countless brands of tattoo ink over the last 25 years I am sure I have had a lot worse ink used on my body then the current UV inks .

If you are going to try using UV inks you will quickly find that most colors look different under blacklight then it does under normal light which can prove a challenge how to color shade so it looks decent under blacklight and normal light as well. Some colors look good with one coloring , other colors require two colorings and some of the darker colors do not look to have a uv reaction when tattooed beside brighter colors . It is really a trial and error process which would cause lots of artists to give up quickly as it can be infurating with color combos .

If you are working in a shop you should warn customers of the lack of info about UV ink safety and have them sign a waiver


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