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FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by "TAT GUN" on 12/07/10


Hi! Have any you guys have test drive these New Machines out now I see "National Tattoo Supply and Joker Supply" are carry them now but I was looking at them on You Tube to see who was using these machines and what these guys are saying about the battery life on a full charge for two in a half hours and the weight at 10 oz. Maybe you guys have some feedback good or bad on this."Lets Hear About It!"



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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by hotdogz on 12/08/10


"let's advertise y'all!"

"more" quotes!


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by paulie on 12/08/10


i've seen some of those wireless machines in action a few months ago and i really didn't think it was that amazing... i mean you have some real dedicated and serious and experienced builders out there who you can call up and they will build you pretty much anything you can imagine... and are clip cords really that much of a pain? they have never bothered me...

maybe what i'm saying is this: unless this is a trend that serious tattoo machine builders are going to embrace (which i think is a bit doubtful but you never really know) then what you loose in presicion and customization and sheer awesomeness of having perfectly built machines just for you is not worth what you gain by having a tattoo machine that does not need a clipcord. i mean... does everything need to be wireless?

i think it would be cool if the technology could be invented that will make the wireless thing accessible to everyone who makes machines, or if you could could buy a conversion kit like you do with RCA... but i am just not willing to give up my clip cord machines for what may just be a passing gimmick.


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by Eriksenn on 12/08/10


Also, who are they really marketing these things to? On their site they tout " you can tattoo without an electrical outlet!" Huh? So what? Who is that going to benefit? Some beach bum, or car-dwelling scratch-meister?! Weird. Paulie, I agree.
These seem to me to be another in a long line of products that are more for profit, and do not take the needs of the serious tattoo artist into consideration. I mean, what are the features that make this machine appealing to true artists? No cords? ugh. They weigh 10 ounces as well.
Another funky thing about 'em is that they cannot be hooked up to a meter to tune and number-crunch. They are super UGLY too! This reminds me of the old gimmicky crap that Superior used to try and hawk. Can they produce nice work? I am sure they can, but why would you use them?


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by thir13enmonsters on 12/08/10


I got to play around with them for a minute. They are definitely akward. I saw the machine run about 30 yards away from the supply and such, which is rather impressive. However, a very large drawback is that the circuitry is exposed. I am curious as to how long the circuit board would hold up with getting sprayed down and wiped on a regular basis. I can just see those solder terminals getting funky and corroding down the road. As far as I remember, you could definitely respring and possibly recoil them if you wanted to. They are NEAT... and that's about it. I do not get that bothered by my clipcord, nor do I need to tattoo 30 yards away from my station. Definitely not worth the price they want for them to me.


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by zaxxon on 12/08/10


I'd be curious to see a complete rebuild of them, maybe just using their electronics, by a good builder.


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by tommy on 12/08/10


everything that uses batteries sucks.


cellphones, cordless drills, remote controls...


i can't see ever trusting a tattoo machine to run off DC power.


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by Gustav on 12/08/10


At the moment it might disorganised and impractical.

But when it becomes - eventually - state of the art bluetooth improved, no exposed contacts etc.? Think about it!


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by BKLZ on 12/08/10


Only good wireless tattoo for the next decade or two could only be Asian hand poke..... no toxic waste, no salespeople, no BS.


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by Pfunk on 12/09/10


and they only run for 2-2 1/2 hours. sorry but i really don't think i'd like a time limit on when my machine will stop running


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by Guille on 12/10/10


I think it won't stop suddenly, I think it will go gradually loosing it's strength.
Which sucks a lot.


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by zaxxon on 12/10/10


Giving it some thought, like Eriksenn said, there seems to be a large potential for misuse of the cordless machines. Will the company be stringent about who buys the machines?


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by paulie on 12/10/10


i doubt it. i mean, the suppliers that are selling them are known not to be all that stringent about selling tattoo gear to random people.


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by rsym on 12/12/10


hmmmm. sounds like this is the first disposable tattoo machine on the market.


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by Epicdermis on 12/12/10


Now idiots don't have to hurry over from the bar to their local scratcher's kitchen to get that sweet $15 tatty they just thought of. They can get it right there in the bar, or in the car on the way over to the scratchers house. No more precious time lost.


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by Gustav on 12/13/10


In the last few years of his life, and before he was murdered in 2005, Beksinski dabbled in digital art. In my opinion, not very good art, considering his phenomenal portfolio of 'normal' paintings and drawings.

The morale of the story is that people will explore and develop new technology and there will always be those who will use it for cheap stunts.

Why can we use an cordless shaver and not a cordless tattoo machine?


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by travelingtom on 12/13/10


"Why can we use an cordless shaver and not a cordless tattoo machine? "

because nobody shaves for 4+ hours.

i think its more than possible to take that technology and make something actually worth using on a tattoo machine, however, i think those machines are fucking crap, a half assed attempt to make some quick money. that technology has been around for a while, infact i believe superior had something like it, except you had to plug something into the power supply, i cant remember but it was close.


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by Gustav on 12/13/10


I agree that the current contraption is crap. But what if the idea could be developed into something state of the art?

There are plenty of extremely hi tech inventions that started off with and idea and some basics. A great example is the cochlear ear to make profoundly deaf people hear again. Small and very, very high tech.

Most likely further development of the idea will not happen due to lack of funds and maybe an overriding quick fix profit motive.


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by canvasyou on 12/14/10


There is a guy at the shop I was at (I'm back in afghanistan w/ the Marines for a year by the way.. woohoo) who decided he HAD to get these..while at a convention in vegas... why? we all asked...
I think he paid like $1000 too!
so he got a set of them. They came with spare batteries. This guy still has yet to use them.. so lame. They are just sitting on his station in the display box. (So I cant comment on how they run)

But what I want to know is.. has anyone looked really close at these - they have a weird timing spring on the bottom of the Abar.. like its notched out. I am guessing for sound? I dont think it has to do with the wireless setup (which I could see a wireless foot switch, but no need for a full on wireless machine). This A-bar looks like an attempt to add another dimension of tuning to the machine, or possibly just a solution to for a better "sounding" machine (ie the slap on the front coil). Another thing to point out is that I think you have to change the voltage w/ tiny buttons on the back of the machine... so def. requires barrier protection, but i think that unventilated lithium batteries get real hot? I am scratching my head here... I will admit that the demo video i saw where they were all tattooing suspended 20 ft above the show floor was cool... (not really). But it is 2010 and we are supposed to be tattooing with laser pens on our segways right?

On an unrelated note, has anyone seen these little robots that clean your house? irobot.. darnedest things... where am i???


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by Epicdermis on 12/14/10


Gustav, if it could be developed to run like an FK or Soba with a run time of 8 strong hours per charge with no real power loss as the juice wanes, stayed lightweight, and it was sold by reputable builders to pros only, completely customizable and tunable any way that one wants, then yes, it would have a place in the worthwhile innovation file.

Still though, a cord hasnt hindered amazing work from being done. Going cordless may offer a bit more manuverability, but not a substantial enough amount to warrant the cost increase from standard corded machines.

Could be interesting to see where this technology takes things though, in the right hands.


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RE:FREEWIRE WIRELESS TATTOO MACHINE

Posted by Gustav on 12/14/10


Yes, I agree.

I was not so much thinking of batteries, more something like a 'remote motor control' from the powersupply to the tattoo machine.

Interesting to see what further development occurs.


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