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getting used to disposables

Posted by lp on 07/11/10


Hey all,
So I've been tattooing for a few years now, and have always been using stainless steel tubes and grips at 1", with Red Rat grip covers. I'm used to the inch and a half or so diameter now as my hands get tired quite easily without them.

I'm going to be going on the road, and doing some guest spots coming up. I thought I'd better get used to disposables... but I can't get used to them yet. With the stainless steel, my lines are solid and even, fills go in smoothly. With the disposables, I only got one or two tattoos in and stopped because I couldn't get the quality work with them! The vibrations were overwhelming and caused my hands to shake, and attempting to fill solid black was so frustrating and uneven.

How do you/did you get used to disposables, without turning out less-than-par tattoos in the meantime? Is there a way to change the set-up slightly to reduce these troubles? I want to keep my level of quality but still be clean and safe as I travel. Any tips would be appreciated thanks!



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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Inkstained on 07/11/10


Dude.. Try out Tatsouls new Wrath Vortex disposables. I had a hard time getting used to disposables as well but these things are awesome!!


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Posted by chris van r on 07/11/10


ahhhh disposables...they can be a cruel mistress, but i think that people should get use to using them. in my opinion they will soon become a standard.

i tried a few styles and have come to prefer the eikon tip/tube no grip disposables. it means you still will have to scrub/sonic and autoclave your grips, but i find that they absorb a lot of the vibration and give you some of the counter-balance weight that straight up disposables just don't offer.

i didn't find it took too long to get use to the disposable mag's[5-15], but the diamonds were another story[i don't use any round tips]. i think since the tip wall is so much thicker than SS, i had to adjust my depth to compensate. i prefer to just barely ride the needle, so if you ride the needle more it may not be so much of an issue for you.

for large mag's, 23 is the biggest i've personally used, i haven't found a disposable i like yet. until then i will keep using the SS for that on the odd occasion that i do. in the end, it means you still have dirty area work, but it's a whole lot less.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by rhendrickson on 07/11/10


Element tattoo supply sell huge inch and a half tubes called sumo. The plastic is hard enough could be a hair harder but they are really decent. Good guy tattoo supply and dark art tattoo supply sell the same inch and a quarter high quality clear tattoo tubes. Try any of these if you cant funtion with one inchers. The haviest tubes are the sumo ones.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by JRoma on 07/12/10


i had also almost same problem.Just use light weight machine with dt.+grip caver to absorb vibration
Highly recommended lightest machines are Fk irons.
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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by manstead on 07/12/10


the new tatsoul tubes are really good. just got some samples from the ink n iron show along with many others. the best i've ever used... kingpin and eikon is pretty good too. i would avoid superior and element tubes (scratcher supply companies). their tips are too thick and the rubber grip if you use that spin... but yea, my rank of choice for best disposables.

1. tatsoul
2. kingpin
3. eikon


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by lp on 07/15/10


I'll definitely try some of those out. they're a necessary evil for me at this point. thanks guys!


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Andy Johnson on 07/17/10


bicknee.

clear blue tubes with a rubber grip. good supply company, good dude, good grips.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Johnny@inkkstainedshop on 07/19/10


Just tried out the tatsoul wrath tubes. Aamazing amazing tubes. The best i've used atleast. Price isn't too bad either. Uu can get one with the soft grip and the standard non-soft grip for cheaper depending on your budget but they work super goood!


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by jimmieknuckles on 08/26/10


i made the switch by using the ss grips and disposable tubes for a bit, really helped me get used to the weight and balance issues. might be worth giving it a shot


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Memo on 08/27/10


Dont know about the rest of you, but I don't like the soft grip disposables.

I paid the extra to see if it would make a difference and it did I suppose...but it was then a pain in the ass to get the grip through the small incision of the machine cover. I tore the hole open wider but then it doesn't protect chuck or the coils from ink splash so well.

This is a minor thing I guess, I have already gotten used to disposables. like sex with a condom on. *sigh*


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Hendrickson on 08/27/10


Get bags that don't have holes dont cut a hole in the bag, put your machine in the bag hold it tight against the side your putting your tube. Keep the bag taunt and poke the tube through using the needleloop. Always cracks me up to see people cutting holes in the bags.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Memo on 08/27/10


Omgz...that's fuckin brilliant


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Hendrickson on 08/27/10


Yeah little tricks like that are the best, the other one I like is if you use paper towels instead of gromets use alcohol in a squeeze bottle fold your paper towel put alcohol on it. It will make putting the needle on the bar easier and will dry in a few mins making the needle fit really tight on the bar.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Memo on 08/27/10


Yeah...I tried that bag thing out...works good only problem is is that if your grommet is weak and flimsy it tears it in half on the way up & through the tube vise. Making a small incision where the needle and tube set up will go will relieve the stress placed on the grommet.

It tucks the plastic half way up the tube vise which is nice. I usually assemble my machine first then put the plastic on.

Kingpin has upgraded their grommets...they are tougher than they used to be and don't break as easily, but they are a pain in the ass to put in. I was not instructed by my mentor to use the whole paper towel thing, but I know all the cool kids are doing it. So im not. : P

I know this is not a big deal...just killing time folks.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by brian on 08/27/10


i hate plastic tubes,make me to work with more voltage .
with steel grips i save at least 2volts


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by O_O on 08/28/10


wow, um yes. I agree with you brian. good.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by shit on 08/28/10


Brian shove that SS tube down your throat!


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by Memo on 08/28/10


And we wonder why certain posts w/ brian go to shit...hahaha


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by shadow on 08/28/10


yeah, that's how it all starts. someone talks about getting used to disposables, Brian jumps in "I hate disposables" then the truly "Brian" part: "With stainless steel I save like 2 volts" What the fuck kind of drugs are you on? Do you put them in the volt bank? Can these "saved volts" be stored and used at a latter date? If you even posted ONE comment that made any sense at all it would be amazing.


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RE:getting used to disposables

Posted by briann on 08/29/10


my posts only make sense to you when you learn how to tattoo.for me youre a scratcher


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