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Blacklight Ink...hrm

Posted by Eriksenn on 12/22/10


Soo, I have a client coming into town for the holidays, and he is wanting some blacklight tattoo-work. I have never used it (except for some iron butterfly blacklight colors a shop had), and really do not want to! Haha...
He just wants some highlights added to the tattoo we finished last year this time. Anyone have any experiences, good or bad with this stuff(regular "invisible" ink)? I notice it is only borderline companies making/selling it, Moms, Skin Candy and the like. The stuff is like 40.00 a bottle, so I would wonder ??? Thanks!



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RE:Blacklight Ink...hrm

Posted by Hendricksontattoo on 12/22/10


used skin candy one time to do a couple of stars, it did what it was suppose to do. Kinda tricky cause its kinda like tattooing with water there is no pigment that you can see in the skin


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RE:Blacklight Ink...hrm

Posted by Eriksenn on 12/22/10


Thanks. Yeah, I heard you should use a blacklight during the actual tattoo... I will probably just buy a bottle of the skin candy, if it works it works. I am not expecting/demanding anything spectacular!


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RE:Blacklight Ink...hrm

Posted by Eriksenn on 12/22/10


...just found the Moms invisible for 12.50 at Tommy's Supply. Sold. Funny, other places seem to want to mark up the invisible to like 3x regular price.


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RE:Blacklight Ink...hrm

Posted by rsym on 12/22/10


I would suggest using a blacklight and ottlight at the same time. I also read somewhere that uv ink is thicker since it has a synthetic cell membrane around the actual pigment molecules itself. cheers


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RE:Blacklight Ink...hrm

Posted by D: on 12/22/10


Hope your clients skin doesint fall off...


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RE:Blacklight Ink...hrm

Posted by travelingtom on 12/22/10


black light ink is some of the worst shit you could ever put in skin, find an msds sheet for it, scary stuff!!!!


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RE:Blacklight Ink...hrm

Posted by stephen on 12/23/10


I'm glad someone brought up the danger aspect. What about the stories of chemicals that flourece being cancer causing or having similar properties to radiation poisoning? I think there's probably a reason the few "big" names don't make this stuff. I could totally be over reacting, but I for one would not put anything into someone's skin that I would not want under my own skin. Just seems like a lot of risk for a novelty type thing.


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RE:Blacklight Ink...hrm

Posted by Gustav on 12/23/10


I totally agree, I think this stuff is pure poison and far much worse than any other 'normal' tattoo ink. I have copied some remarks from an article on the net.

You can make up your own mind up about the merits of tattoo ink, I have my own thoughts and concerns and that is not going to change because of one or other attack on me. As you can see from another thread, emotions can run quite high about this. However, here are some of the facts:

Manufacturers are not required to reveal their ingredients or conduct trials, and recipes may be proprietary. Professional inks may be made from iron oxides (rust), metal salts, plastics. Homemade or traditional tattoo inks may be made from pen ink, soot, dirt, blood,or other ingredients.

Heavy metals used for colors include mercury (red); lead (yellow, green, white); cadmium (red, orange, yellow); nickel (black); zinc (yellow, white); chromium (green); cobalt (blue); aluminium (green, violet); titanium (white); copper (blue, green); iron (brown, red, black); and barium (white).
Metal oxides used include ferrocyanide and ferricyanide (yellow, red, green, blue). Organic chemicals used include azo-chemicals (orange, brown, yellow, green, violet) and naptha-derived chemicals (red).

Carbon (soot or ash) is also used for black. Other compounds used as pigments include antimony, arsenic, beryllium, calcium, lithium, selenium, and sulphur.


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RE:Blacklight Ink...hrm

Posted by Mystic on 12/27/10


Gustov
That info is about 40 years out of date, no one (except maybe chinese or cowboys) use any lead, cadmium, nickel, zinc, mercuary, chromium, cobalt, aluminium, barium, antimony, arsenic, beryllium, calcium, lithium, selenium, and sulphur in Tattoo colour. As to Titanium it is not used but the dioxide of Titanium is used and is such a safe "synthetic" pigment it is also used as an approved cosmetic, food and drug colour as are some of the others listed, and have been used safely for decades. Just not really helpful to throw such an outdated list of no longer used pigments out there as if it's current.


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RE:Blacklight Ink...hrm

Posted by Eriksenn on 12/28/10


Just an update... After discussing the possible risks and definite wackness,lol... my client decided against the blacklight ink. Thanks for the input.


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RE:Blacklight Ink...hrm

Posted by Gustav on 12/28/10


Mystic

All I am trying to do is to get exact details of what is in tattoo ink. I would have thought that is not too difficult. And the results? You can see that for your self. I am not an expert, remember, and I don,t make or sell the stuff.

I am starting to think this is a waste of time and all I see is some general comments but nothing specific. It is easy to talk around it but not so easy to specifically tell me what the fuck is actually in tattoo ink.

As far as I can find the fllowing ingredients are still common and I am very happy to be corrected if this is wrong.

Black
Iron Oxide (Fe3O4) , Iron Oxide (FeO), Carbon, Logwood
Natural black pigment is made from magnetite crystals, powdered jet, wustite, bone black,and amorphous carbon from combustion (soot). Black pigment is commonly made into India ink.
Logwood is a heartwood extract from Haematoxylon campechisnum, found in Central America and the West Indies.

Brown Ochre
Ochre is composed of iron (ferric) oxides mixed with clay. Raw ochre is yellowish. When dehydrated through heating, ochre changes to a reddish color.

Red - Cinnabar (HgS) - Cadmium Red (CdSe) - Iron Oxide (Fe2O3)
Napthol-AS pigment
Iron oxide is also known as common rust. Cinnabar and cadmium pigments are highly toxic. Napthol reds are synthesized from Naptha. Fewer reactions have been reported with naphthol red than the other pigments, but all reds carry risks of allergic or other reactions.

Orange disazodiarylide and/or disazopyrazolone

Cadmium seleno-sulfide
The organics are formed from the condensation of 2 monoazo pigment molecules. They are large molecules with good thermal stability and colorfastness.

Yellow Cadmium Yellow (CdS, CdZnS)

Chrome Yellow (PbCrO4, often mixed with PbS)

Green Chromium Oxide (Cr2O3), Malachite [Cu2(CO3)(OH)2]
Ferrocyanides and Ferricyanides,

The greens often include admixtures, such as potassium ferrocyanide (yellow or red) and ferric ferrocyanide (Prussian Blue)

Blue Azure Blue, Cobalt Blue, Cu-phthalocyanine
Blue pigments from minerals include copper (II) carbonate (azurite), sodium aluminum silicate (lapis lazuli), calcium copper silicate (Egyptian Blue), other cobalt aluminum oxides and chromium oxides.

The safest blues and greens are copper salts, such as copper pthalocyanine. Copper pthalocyanine pigments have FDA approval for use in infant furniture and toys and contact lenses. The copper-based pigments are considerably safer or more stable than cobalt or ultramarine pigments.

Violet Manganese Violet (manganese ammonium pyrophosphate, various aluminum salts, Quinacridone, Dioxazine/carbazole
Some of the purples, especially the bright magentas, are photoreactive and lose their color after prolonged exposure to light. Dioxazine and carbazole result in the most stable purple pigments.

White Lead White (Lead Carbonate), Titanium dioxide (TiO2),
Barium Sulfate (BaSO4), Zinc Oxide
Some white pigments are derived from anatase or rutile. White pigment may be used alone or to dilute the intensity of other pigments. Titanium oxides are one of the least reactive white pigments.


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