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I need help picking out a good machine. Please Help

Posted by stilltz90 on 02/24/10


I finally made in a shop as an apprentice and I have been learning for months now. I need to upgrade my machines. I have 600 dollars to spend on each one. I want a liner, colur packer, and shader. What brands are good for my price?



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Posted by Madmosher666 on 02/24/10


There's a million different threads on this subject. And as you'll see you'll get countless replies telling you what to buy. The decision is down to you.


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Posted by Eriksenn on 02/24/10


Wow. Well for 600.00 each, nothing is out of your budget range... You cannot go wrong with FKI, about anyone from Workhorse irons, Infininte Irons has great machines, and Joey is very helpful.


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Posted by brian on 02/24/10


micky sharpzs


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Posted by jwood on 02/24/10


for 600 you get could a liner shader 2 machine combo from next generation throw in shipping/tax and your good or order a fallen kings and spend 200 on tubes or something your in the right place for making informed decisions and good luck with your career


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Posted by jwood on 02/24/10


oh shit i just realied you said 600 for EACH ONE read the threads man your options are endless


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Posted by Omar on 02/24/10


FK Irons best machines money can buy.
Check them out fkirons.com


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Posted by Cliff Grisham on 02/25/10


I just got the new Specialist from pulse. Really nice machine. Cant wait to use it again. Never fell in love with any of my FKs. What types of machines do your mentor/mentors use? Or suggest? I'm sure they would have great and better insight for what you are ready for. When I first started I wanted a half coil Next Gen so bad, and my mentor suggested it may be too quick and hit too hard for a beginner. So he suggested Soba/WHI and Pulse. Never had a problem with either company. Use the pulse machines a lil more I think. Finally I did get my halfcoil NextGen, and my teacher was right. It was fast like a fucking beast, and hit really hard. I may def have chipped someone up as a beginner. Joey D rocks too. Paco Rollins makes a sick dependable machine too. But like I said your mentor knows better of your skill and what types of machine you can handle at this point of your career. Check the forum and goodluck.

-Cliff

ps I learned this the expensive way. You arnt going to tattoo like Nick if you use his exact setup. Or Guy/Tony C if you use a Next Gen. Or Nikko with his Cain. Or Bob T with a mickey. etc...They are one in billion. Tattoo how you draw and draw your fucking ass off. The rest will come.


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Posted by cbe on 02/25/10


get a pair of paco rollins machines, at pacorollinsmachines.com for 300 bucks, and use the rest of the money to buy some taco bell and new tires for you car.


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Posted by apl on 02/25/10


i agree with cbe total u save $900 get some books or other thing with it too like ink . n later on get other machine when u r better ....


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Posted by brass balls on 02/26/10


there is no need for you as an apprentice to spend $1800 total on your first 3 machines..get yourself either paco rollins,pulse,whi,next gen,infinite irons,etc..spend no more than 300 bucks each and put the rest in the bank for emergencies or something..


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Posted by madmosher666 on 02/26/10


This is all great advice and it's not as if these machines are low standard cheaper machines either. A Paco Rollins, Infinite Irons or Workhorse would serve you well for years. If you speak to Paco or Joey from Infinite and tell them what you're after they'll tune it to your needs too. What more could you possibly need?! Like the others have said spend the extra on new inks or a Critical power supply, a new footswitch, some of the countless DVDs that are out there like Russ Abbott's or simply save your money. For $1800 dollars you could buy so much more than 3 super duper machines that might not even suit your hand speed, style or level of experience.


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Posted by lesPaulFreek on 03/02/10


Dude.. check out S&S custom Irons.... sweet machines. Will run you about $300 each and well worth it.


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Posted by brian on 03/02/10


or if you want save money and make a good choise buy the hawk,with one machine you make everything


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Posted by chris van r on 03/02/10


first time poster...long time lurker...just my two cents but i'm surprised that no one has mentioned buying a machine kit on here yet. i think getting to know more about machines is an important part in bettering yourself as an artist. the green monster kits from eikon are very reasonably priced as are the ones from workhorse. the green monsters come with[or did when i picked up mine] the true spring set up which i find people either love or hate, but another theory on set up will make you think regardless...you can always put on a set of conventional springs and armature bar. i think you should get at least one kit out of the 3...and maybe pick up the collection of machinegun magazine from eikon with the extra cash.

i'd go with a aaron cain liner from workhorse
http://www.workhorseirons.com/Store/Tattoo_Machines_Aaron_Cain.php

a coloring machine from incognito irons
http://incognitoirons.com/

and a green monster shader kit from eikon.
http://www.eikondevice.com/EDI_catalog/canphp/products/equipment/machines/2097C.php


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Posted by Madmosher666 on 03/03/10


I'm also an advocate of knowing as much as possible about machines. I also believe it can be too confusing when all you're trying to do is clean line work, solid colour and smooth shading to open the can of worms that is machine function. Get your work to a place that you're comfortable with and then have a play with a machine.


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Posted by brass balls on 03/04/10


i agree with madmosher on this..if your not used to using great performing machines for a while how can you know what to look for when building your own..by all means he should definitly study machines and do some tinkering and maintenance to familiarize himself with em..if you have the cash to get quality stuff out the gate go for it


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Posted by chris van r on 03/04/10


i'd agree that it may be a whole new can of worms to open once you start getting into machine setup and function...but also that it may be stuff you want to get into before your really tattooing. i here of too many artists that know nothing at all about machines, i personally fell in that category for many years.

when your starting out there's alot of down time that can be spent answering phones, drawing, watching, drawing, mopping floors, drawing, watching, asking questions and yes more drawing; but why not set up a machine and take it apart a bunch of times in between all that?

if you've got that much too spend, you can get 3 machines and a kit with money left over! that way, even if it takes you a year, you don't have to make sure that the kit is running perfect to do the kanji's or walk-in 'stamp' tattoos.


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Posted by Chris on 03/10/10


you might wanna try getting a hold Joshua Carlton's set of 3 machines. they are going for very low prices,,, i got lucky and got mine at a redicoulously low price and now i'm waiting for my 2nd set and it was even a lower price than before. they are good solid smooth running machines. Like i said i got lucky getting mine and i have seen other people getting them at these prices also. what ever you do, dont get anything from Indy Irons,,those machines are a plain ripp off and the guy (Greg Calhoun), well i'll just say he's a work of art!! if you want i'll show pictures of the machine i got from him, just email me if interested.


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Posted by Chris on 03/10/10


I forgot to mention those Carlton's machines are on Ebay, in case you didnt know.


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Posted by tonybaldes on 03/20/10


I wish I had that kind of money when I was an apprentice,FUCK I guess Im just bitter cause I didnt buy my way into tattooing with moms credit card and an overpriced apprenticeship.if I were you just get a god damn danny fowler and save some fukin cash its lifetime warrantied and never need it


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