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dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by paul@inkgallerytattoos on 11/29/08


these guys machines are pretty up there in price....gimmie feedback guys is it worth it???

I love the good reviews on FKI though

yo..FKI...if you read this....email me man....I want to ask you something about your machines...I want to get 5 or 6



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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by lado on 11/29/08


yeah they are fu...g expensive (working class model for $600:), and never ever have red some feedback on them, would be interested as well.


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by jonas on 11/29/08


My coworker has a blue working class Timmy machine. He got it set up as a shader almost 2 yrs ago and he still uses it day in- day out. He loves it. I think he uses it for everythign too.


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by paul@inkgallerytattoos on 11/29/08


sweet....I love the frames, and I would hope that these guys would put out the best machines (to their ability) for us to work with...I want to start a collection...but I want to get machines that have good rep. and could be everyday workhorses....hope I dont sound full of shit...but hey...just want the tools to be sharp as possible....


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by aw8one on 11/29/08


i have a square back liner that i traded along with a power supply for some neumas very good trade ill say but there is no way i would pay the full price for these things. Plus if you ever had a problem with the machine and wanted to send it back he will charge you 150 bucks to tune it, that just seems a little nuts if you ask me


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by Jerrett on 11/29/08


Personally I own a lot of machines and the Dringenberg I have was not worth the money. Its not a bad machine at all....its just not worth the $550 I paid for it. I bought one and use it but it did need some tweaking and respringing to get it to work for me. I would expect for the price tag that a machine would come out of the box ready to work its ass off. I have a number of friends who own Dringenberg machines with the same review as mine. Good machines in my opinion....just not worth the price for how they come AND the charge for re-tuneing is kinda rediculous if you ask me.


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by Greg H on 11/30/08


Wow, considering Next Gen charges a measly $10 for a respring and tune that is outrageous...


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by paul@inkgallerytattoos on 11/30/08


I dunno...I guess I just want to say..."hey....look how much I spent on these" lol...its cool!


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by Fallen King Irons on 11/30/08


Hey Paul shoot me an email (listed on my site) or myspace me: myspace.com/fkirons


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by www.conorblueeyes.com on 12/01/08


why wouldn't they just guarantee their parts and tuning? (this is a rhetorical question, id hate for them to explain their long winded reasoning for 150 dollar tunings to me...) for as much as a spring costs...what builder wouldn't guarantee their craftsmanship and ask for just mailing costs...plenty do...and those that do...their price tags aren't even that hefty. it reminds me of the time i had a piece of art for sale for 25 bucks, and it never sold....the day i changed it...the DAY... i changed it... to 120, it sold.

go figures. sometimes the difference is the price.

cant say, never used either...but...buyer beware.


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by paul@inkgallerytattoos on 12/01/08


I really appriciate all the feedback...I sent both of these guys emails...none answered...well dan answered...probably wasn't him...but the "actual question" was never answered...so I just wonder...fuck...is it worth it...are their machines so damn good...i gotta find out thru others...or just purchase one...and either fill ripped off...or maybe it is some of the best tools among us...i just didn't know of many people using these machines...and just last night I found the "tim hendricks black widow" on ebay...dude bought it for $550...and it sold on ebay for 177.50 free shipping


.........im loosing it, am i?.......

am i putting to much into this whole situation?
that what the doctor told me...jk


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by www.conorblueeyes.com on 12/01/08


my advice is to spend the time it would take to MAKE that amount of money you would use on those machines...... to find out what makes a machine "good", and know what you want and need out of a machine. with that bit of knowledge, you would ask yourself what could possibly make a machine better than another...a tattoo machine is just that, a machine and a variable of parts is what makes it good. no midas touch from a builder.

you dont have to go as far as to build your own, or even re-build your own...but with a price tag like that, that thing better bandage the tattoo afterwards, clean my station, and jerk me off after work.

this comes from a guy who uses machines that cost 150 bucks a piece for the last 5 years. and some might think it looks like that? who knows.

....just one mans opinion. good luck!


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by josh on 12/02/08


ive never used either of their machines but a guy i work with has a couple phil holt machines that cost 500 or 600 not shur, but they run pretty solid. he didnt need to tweek them at all when he got them either.


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by warchild33 on 12/05/08


I have 2 dringenberg p series machines.....bought them on a recommendation from Kore Flatmo when I was doing a spot at plurabella and I will say....

best machines Ive ever owned....truly a work of craftmanship and art.

If you dont own one....get one.


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by warchild33 on 12/06/08


and conor...

very true about the parts being important but I think your tremendously underestimating the wealth of knowledge and craftmanship...not to mention ART that some builders put into their machines.

NOW....does that make them worth 500. to 600. bucks?? No...but last time i checked, when you "own something, you can call it what you want"???

tru dat home slice, bomb diggity.......DOGG.


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by www.conorblueeyes.com on 12/06/08


thats why there are menus in resturants.
quite frankly im not too interested in the collectability, or "art" of a tattoo machine. I want it to run well, and do the job its meant to do. Perhaps I am underestimating the aesthetics of the machines, because i personally am only interested in one thing from a tattoo machine: function. and as far as aesthetics: I dont even think they are the prettiest.

Kore Flatmo has been using Incognitio Irons, who before were Schrobritter for the LAST few years as far as I know, and they are very nice machines as well. A little less with the price...well actually closer to half the price...and just as pretty...

Unfortunately I will always think its the person behind the machine. A wealth of knowledge can only get you so far in machine making and tuning, because there is only so much to know. There is the basic formula of machinery, and your personal tuning preference, and then thats it, IMO.

After I saw Shane O'Neill tattooing with "the nail" from Danny Dwyer, and Joshua Carlton shade a piece with a "cam 25 dollar machine" (to prove a point) my views were forever changed.

I wont debate though, that if you spent a ton of money on a machine that has the same components as any other, than you would have a great allegiance to that machine, and a key to a members only club of people that spend 600 bucks on a machine. Me? I bought a sixer and a box of pizza.


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by www.conorblueeyes.com on 12/06/08


i just re-read what i wrote, and didn't mean it to come off as dick as it sounded. The points all make sense, but it looked a little standoffish, which i didnt mean...however it is 8 o clock here, and I havent had my coffee yet. so i apologize...
by the way, warchild33...you did a guest spot at plurabella?
mind me asking who you are?
I'd love to see your work!
thanks dude.
conor


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Posted by www.conorblueeyes.com on 12/06/08


edit: dennis dwyer.


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by warchild33 on 12/06/08


right on...I hear ya conor. Im not saying you need a machine this great to do solid tattoos. Ive seen guy do a tattoo with a piece of crap and Ive watched some folks do less than desirable tattoos with great machines. So very true, its in the eye of the "holder".

my name is Brian....or BL. i work at mothers in covington, KY....accross the river from cincy and I use to work with Kore at Designs by Dana back in the day. So Ive been friends with Kore and Brenda for a long while.

I had a client who wanted to incorporate a piece I was doing with a piece he wanted from Kore....we figured it would be easiest to do them simultaneously. So we did them at Plurabella.

And as far I last time I saw...which was about a month ago....Kore is still using his custom made (which means he spent more than 600. dringenberg machines (he had two made). THey are custom made out of Damascus metal and they run like a dream. As far as I know they are his daily drivers.

I am getting my ribs worked on next week.....Ill check and if I am wrong I will make sure and respost here with my apologies.

EIther way.....good machines are good machines and good tattooers are made of one thing.....work work work. Either way good tattoos come from good tattooers.

Thanks for the rap conor....many blessings.


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by www.conorblueeyes.com on 12/06/08


awesome man. thanks for writing back. i beleive he'd use some dringenbergs, after all i only know about the other machines from interviews ive read. never met the guy, but love his work! im with you whole heartedly on the machine is in the holder, however a good machine, with good quality parts take a lot of the guesswork that machine tuning can be, out of the equation and allows an artist to do what they need to focus on...creating good art. i appreciate a good collectors machine as well as the next, and definitely appreciate the machinery i have seen out of dringenbergs machines. heard much about his ink with august? the sun ink?so many inks out now i dont know what to try next.


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RE:dan dringenberg or timmy hendricks

Posted by gregaustralia on 12/07/08


i kinda missed the boat with this topic... but i have a tim hendricks brass liner that i got from a convention in london, while getting a piece from him on my leg..... i thought i would spend the cash...(cost more in pounds than dollars)..because as i was getting the tattoo he was telling me how he works and why his machines are different than others...... (they are set up for his work only).... hence the retunes which a few people have said they needed. he said that he has never had to retune any of his machines that weren't tampered with.... not trying to be confrontational, (from his mouth)....and i have stuck by the notion that if you like a persons work and they make machines, get one, chances are they will work for you..... don't like the work.. then its probably not for you... and there are other makers out there.... and if the price is a factor... calculate how much it costs each working day for a year.. or two... and see if its still worth it. on the other hand i got a scott sylvia for less and love it as much.... and a totally different machine..


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