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etik neumatic coil

Posted by sto cristo ink on 10/18/10


any one of you guys use or heard abaout etik neumatic coil?this is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV3-c-wpbDc



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RE:etik neumatic coil

Posted by shadow on 10/18/10


Wow, that's pretty interesting as far as ideas go. Just barely finished watching the video, so it hasn't really digested yet in my head, but my first thought is that it's a coil trying to run like a Neuma. Very ingenious though.


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RE:etik neumatic coil

Posted by brian on 10/18/10


let me say that this is amazing,the best inonation that i see in tattoo world,this gonna change the tattoo machine forever.no ore heat,loose power,magnetism probles is out forever


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RE:etik neumatic coil

Posted by Monkeybusiness on 10/18/10


*DON"T FEED THE ANIMALS*


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RE:etik neumatic coil

Posted by Mystic on 10/18/10


Seems to me that they are using a pneumatic actuator attached under the armature to push the armature bar up and relying on the spring in the actuator to bring the a-bar back down, seems all the power is going into pushing up the bar, not pushing into the skin, increasing the pressure is increasing the speed but the "hitting" power is always going to be only as good as the spring pulling down the a-bar. To work properly it should have been mounted on top of the a-bar so as to use the actuator to push the a-bar down and use a spring under it to push it up. But then why would you bother, if you like the idea of pneumatic machines just go numea!


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RE:etik neumatic coil

Posted by Gustav on 10/18/10


Don't like the idea of a compressor, too much hassle. However is there anything or real innovation that I am missing here?


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RE:etik neumatic coil

Posted by sto cristo ink on 10/18/10


@monkeybusness are talking about me as a scratcher or brian and dont feed information im not dumb..check my work at face book and my space edu ruidera...can i see your work because your like a tattoo god in your msg


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RE:etik neumatic coil

Posted by shadow on 10/18/10


No man, I'm pretty sure he was talking to Brian. He's quite an instigator on here. Pretty sure no one meant you any disrespect. The comment about the actuator needing to be on top seemed pretty spot on, though. I was thinking while I was watching the video that it should push the a bar up and down, like a wheel with a cam, maybe? It could come in a little anodized casing which could come in an array of colors, and you could get rid of the "coils" all together! Just kidding. I did sort of like the way it combined pneumatics with springs, but having used a Neuma for many years, the air compressor can become a little cumbersome; and as far as pneumatic machines go they're at the top. I think if this company really wants to pursue this that maybe they should start from scratch and come up with a whole different design that uses actuators on top and bottom but still has the springs. I know that no one involved in any invention ever wants to hear "start from scratch", but the ideas there; just seems like it needs to be fleshed out a little.


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RE:etik neumatic coil

Posted by anthony on 10/18/10


cool vid, pretty neat actually. i was a little more interested in the frame they were using than the air coils.

as cool as it all looks though i agree with Gustav. compressors can be a hassle. from how they run to trying to find a place to put the thing if the guy you work for even wants it in his shop.

it just doesn't seem practical. instead of just using electricty to power a machine. youre using electricity to power a compressor, to power a machine.

i don't mean to be negative, i love cool new shit, and this does look pretty cool, it's too bad someone didn't think of utlizing air power this way first. but i think alot of people who already sold their compressors and are still mentally scarred from their N2 experience won't want to give it another go.

however, im generally wrong about things... i specifically rememeber telling a friend how "this emo thing will never catch on" at a show 12 or so years ago


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RE:etik neumatic coil

Posted by Gustav on 10/18/10


What are the details of these coils and how do they move the abar. I can see that an increase in the pressure increases the speed but what else is going on?


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RE:etik neumatic coil

Posted by Buddha on 10/18/10


To me the only advantage and their selling point seems to be that in essence you have a clavable coil type machine aimed at the EU market where regulations are changing.

They have a Neumatic machine also although its quite different to a Neuma or InkJecta http://www.etiktattoo.com


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RE:etik neumatic coil

Posted by anthony on 10/18/10


haha holyshit, did all 4 of us post at the same time?

that's hilsrious.


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RE:etik neumatic coil

Posted by Buddha on 10/18/10


Sure looks like it!


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RE:etik neumatic coil

Posted by Gustav on 10/18/10


Yes, wires were tangled a little.

Agree that electricity to power a compressor is very inefficient. I am not so much interested in peripherals like the autoclavable bit although all other things being equal it is a benefit.

The real thing is - what drives the needle and is there fluidity in the movement and is there a bit of give and if yes can you control this and what else is of real benefit to the actual process of putting ink in.
I know nothing about the Neuma and being ingored by them years ago lost interest in them.


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