If you want to get quality machines for a reasonable price and and not feel ripped off, hit up Paco Rollins. Call him up, tell him what you want and go from there. His machines $150-$180. As always, these are all matters of opinion. I rock Pulse, and Soba. If i had a choice out of the machines in question listed, Sunskin all the way, many choices of frames and set up although VERY pricey.