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The Stuck Armature Bar!?!

Posted by Andrew on 08/11/10


So I have this problem with my shader and it's been gradually getting worst. The armature bar keeps wanting to stick to the coils and or the front spring is sticking to the contact screw. No mater what voltage I run the machine this problem still occurs, and I am tired of taping the grommet to engage the machine. What am I doing wrong?



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RE:The Stuck Armature Bar!?!

Posted by T on 08/11/10


sounds like 2 problems, are you getting alot of blue arc from the contact screw ? might be time to change the capacitor, it might be fuseing together a bit.. and keep it the screw/spring clean, windex works really well (someone tipped that off in another thread) as for the residual magnatism, you could run it over a degausser (de-magnatizer) go to walmart or a similar store and ask the cashier nicely if she would do it for you. I heard you can smack it with a piece of steel too, never tryed it tho, i havint had this problem much.
It sounds like your machine is due for a overhaul, if it were me i would probally just rebuild it, if you dont want to do that then i hope what i suggested helps you out. either way i would suggest taking it apart and cleaning your electrical contacts and changing the capacitor and springs and de-magnatize it.


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RE:The Stuck Armature Bar!?!

Posted by ChrisDowning on 08/11/10


Check the wiring


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RE:The Stuck Armature Bar!?!

Posted by stillbirth_machine on 08/11/10


I would check the wires as well. Maybe something is touching the frame?


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RE:The Stuck Armature Bar!?!

Posted by T on 08/11/10


i was going to say it might be the wireing, but other things you said made it sound like magnatism. If it sticks and stays down then its the wires touching the frame.


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RE:The Stuck Armature Bar!?!

Posted by anthony on 08/11/10


@ T

that's a pretty slick idea. good call.


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RE:The Stuck Armature Bar!?!

Posted by T on 08/11/10


Thanks dude, its not my original idea or anything, but it does the trick if you have residual magnatism issues.


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RE:The Stuck Armature Bar!?!

Posted by Gaston - FK Irons on 08/11/10


If the armature bar get's stock to the coil you have a short circuit somewhere.
- Check the wire that connects to top and bottom binders. Make sure they are not touching the frame.
- Also your capacitor could have the insulation that covers the can damaged and is shorting out against your frame.
- Macke sure that non of the wires are squeezed against the parts.

For what you say your problem may lie on the binder connections.


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RE:The Stuck Armature Bar!?!

Posted by pittore on 08/13/10


really , then you should not be tattooin.
thats why theres so many professional amateurs hackin peoples skin,...


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RE:The Stuck Armature Bar!?!

Posted by travelingtom on 08/14/10


"really , then you should not be tattooin.
thats why theres so many professional amateurs hackin peoples skin,..."

so just because you dont know how to fix an electrical problem, your a hack? and every artist in the world hacked somebodies skin at one point or another. not trying to be a dick, but your statement was ignorant and uncalled for.


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RE:The Stuck Armature Bar!?!

Posted by gabesantiago on 08/15/10


some of the best artist out there don't know shit about machines and they are happy with that, they let the machine building up to the builders and they stick with their art. for someone to say that if you don't know your a hack or anything like that is retarded, times have changed my man people aren't putting together needle groupings in the back room as much shit some aren't even using stainless tubes. and professional amateurs? contraDICKt much lately? my guess is like many others said there is a short and part of your wires are touching the frame making it a constant magnet with out the off switch of the contact break, not sure about the front spring being stuck to the contact screw though. either way man take it apart and clean it. get the parts that make contact like front spring, contact screw, holes where your clip cord connects, bottom of your armature bar, top of your coils (both not just front), and i suggest the whole binding post set up plastic washers and all. electrical contact cleaner works but as some one said windex is supposed to work pretty good.


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RE:The Stuck Armature Bar!?!

Posted by jimmieknuckles on 08/26/10


im with t on this one, either a magnetism issue, ,cap,or an exposed wire making contact, clean it, check your wires for contact, and a trick that i learned is to coat exposed wires with nail polis to prevent it in the future if it is indeed a wire arcing to the frame


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