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Greywash dispute

Posted by Inkstained on 04/01/10


Hey all, finally been gettng more active on this forum. Nick is AMazing and everyone seems to have sincere, constructive advice.
I have a dispute with the other artist in my shop. He's strictly a traditional style artist as I am more directed towards fine art and black and grey work.
Do most people reccomend saturating their graywashs as opposed to feathering techniques? I usually use only 3 tones. Black. A60% and a 30%. I'll use the needle depth to get lighter if need be. But I do get some mag marks. Imusing bugpin mags so their not very noticeable. I would love to use a wider grey tone pallette and saturate it but I'm afraid of overworking the skin on my blend areas.



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RE:Greywash dispute

Posted by rhendrickson on 04/01/10


if you whip shade a darker black with out the neccessary lighter shades layered on top you will have the dark rake lines. its about dots and not having darker dots out in an area all by themselves without the lighter tones to blend the dots togeather. Silver back is a great tool i run my machines softly and layer and layer and layer my black and grey with out any ill effects no scabbing. I ussually start with a mid tone or light tone and add the dark later.


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RE:Greywash dispute

Posted by Inkstained on 04/01/10


That's exactly what I'm doIng now... I just started using waverly black and it's amazing. Next piece I'm just gonna run my shader realllllly soft and Keep layering with a bugpin mag and see what happens when I load up the greys.


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RE:Greywash dispute

Posted by Inkstained on 04/01/10


That's exactly what I'm doIng now... I just started using waverly black and it's amazing. Next piece I'm just gonna run my shader realllllly soft and Keep layering with a bugpin mag and see what happens when I load up the greys.


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RE:Greywash dispute

Posted by me on 04/01/10


personally, i saturate my grey washes and approach the technique no differently than color. if you know how to get solid color without scabbing it should be no different with greywash--in fact, easier because greywash is less hard on the skin. i use 5 to 6 shades and usually layer over multiple sittings to build up that rich, saturated look in the darker areas (50% and darker).

keep in mind i do about one greywash piece a year so im not the leading expert. speaking of which ,the only greywash piece i've done in a long time will be finished up in the next month or two so look out for it in my skin gallery, i'll post it when it's healed since dude is local.


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RE:Greywash dispute

Posted by inkstained on 04/01/10


Hey Nick.. now let me ask this question. Almost all my color pieces, I use a long throw, slow running, hard hitting machine to pack color. Not exactly an ideal tuning for smooth b&g blends... I contemplated on trying my cutback shade r and approach it as if im undershading. Then saturate the mids and highlights.I guess.. I can always experiment but i dont want to do it at someone elses expense... Or.. I can start hacking on my own leg again. Ha!!


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RE:Greywash dispute

Posted by me on 04/03/10


i think if youre working in your comfort zone then tuning doesnt matter. you know how to put ink in a certain way that works for you. try to work accordingly and whatever tuning allows for that is where you need to be. not the best advice, but, i am no machine guru, and everyone tattoos slightly differently.


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RE:Greywash dispute

Posted by Inkstained on 04/03/10


Well.. I did a first session on a B&G piece last night. I saturated all the greywashes and let me tell you.. What a difference. So much more rich and punchy looking. Hopefully it heals well... It did start to bleed a little more than usual on my third pass but I think it will be ok. The skin had that nice velvety texture like I get when I saturate colors... we shall see. Thanks for the advice.


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RE:Greywash dispute

Posted by g-star on 04/04/10


im having similar problem at the moment, i have been working with colour for so long i feel i have neglected my b/g work in fact i havent done any for over a year, (just never get asked).
thing is i really like b/g work especially strong saturated work i love joshua carltons stuff, in fact i bought a cutback shader. my problem is using the cutback i found it very hard to get any great results, then the other day i used my solution for a very tiny bit of b/g and it seemed to work well, so i no the answer will be if it works then use it but dont you ever feel like when you try a technique recomended by such great artists that the problem has got to be you??
sorry about the ramble


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RE:Greywash dispute

Posted by mystiik on 04/04/10


Hi ... i wanted to say your forums are great i love how people don't bash others for asking questions like they do on other forums i have seen ... as to your greywash question i work in a 100% custom tattoo shop and in my personal opinion 1. don't be afraid to experiment dont just stick to your 3 shades of greywash mix it up creat your own % of wash and see what you like ... in this buisness there is no one way to do it..2. I would like to say you also may be interested in the skin candy roan black cherry wash it is great for giving your wash a custom look since most still use just a thinned black for washing having that slight burgundy tint in your shading is really nice.. now these are just my opinions and may not be the same as others but just don't be afraid of playing with your mix and finding your own path.That's what makes a artist's work stand out. I hope you find this helpful


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RE:Greywash dispute

Posted by inkstained on 04/04/10


I saw that black cherry mix. Its nice... Ive started using Waverly Black a few weeks ago and im hooked.
Does anyone premix their wash in larger bottles? If so, what kind of ratio are you using. For sometime now ive always mixed my wash in caps for each piece... e.g. 1 drop, 3 drops, 6 dropss and mix with glycerine and witch hazel. I want to make my mixes in larger bottles... makes life easier. I have a bunch of empty 4oz bottles laying around so I might as well.


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RE:Greywash dispute

Posted by tommi on 04/05/10


I like to pre mix into larger bottles, It keeps things easier for me. To each his own but I like to keep it simple, 50, 25, then like 5.(thats just my version) Plus premixing to me helps me know exactly what to expect everytime.


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