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Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by Cheet on 02/08/10


I know there are a few topic on this- there just hasn't been a good review on any of them.
I've been searching for disposables and have had no luck. The vibration you feel through them, the poor needle visibility, and the difference your machine is running makes me go back to steel.
I read somewhere that unimax makes a good solid one? And so does mithra with steel tips? How about good guy supply clear ones?
I know i can just purchase some and try them for myself. Just wanted to know if you guys had any inputs before I do so.



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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by cbe on 02/08/10


cam originals with the rubber grips are my favorite out of all i have tried.
everything else cam sucks. cheers!


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by Madmosher666 on 02/09/10


I really wanted to switch over to disposables fully but there are so many badly manufactured ones out there i gave up. I've got a bag of the black ones with the silicon grips gathering dust at the studio. I machine my own one piece grips with stem out of marine grade stainless steel and then just use disposable tips. I've got the sturdy feel of steel, the plastic tips so my lighter colours don't stain and because when the tip is taken out there's no other grooves or knurling they're real easy to clean.


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by JOE on 02/09/10


I understand your issues with disposables, and I agree there barely a replacement for Stainless tubes. But I will say that its just a matter of getting used to them.
I use solid white tubes from Pulse which are OK. But i've been using the black rubber grip tubes from DPS http://www.tattooproducts.com/tubes_tips_grips.html for a while now, and I must say there great.
I will also say that I've used similar tubes from a couple of other companies, and had issues with them. Things like springy, or non ridged tubes. And a rubber grips that come loose when setting them in your machine. The DPS tubes for me so far have been the best.
Also they've recently started making larger mag disposables. 23-39 mag. While not my favorite, they can get the job done.
Hope this was a bit of help

JOE


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by andrewc on 02/09/10


Ill also say the cam tubes are great no vibe in them but the problem i have with them is the rubber grip will come loose sometimes espically with some machines like my national jonsies ive got to pry them open a bit every once in a while in order to get the tubes in them which is annoying but overall what ive used those i find to be probably the best


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by www.JohnDameArt.com on 02/09/10


I have used cam, mithra, the black rubber grip ones and a few others including kingpin.

So far i have to say that kingpin is the best.


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by mark kidd on 02/10/10


Cheet, I use a twist grip made of stainless that works kinda like a drill vise does. You slide a disposable tube into it and twist it and it locks the tube in place much like a drill vise would lock a bit. Then to release it you just untwist and throw the tube away and clave the grip. It's cool because the weight from the SS grip helps w/ counter balance and dampens vibration. Technical Supply makes it. I looked for a link but they don't have a pic of it on their website. I've been using them for about a year and no probs, corrosion, or pitting. For the tubes, I've been using disposables from Eikon (http://www.eikondevice.com/EDI_catalog/canphp/products/equipment/tubes/Disposable/2507F04.php) but, they seem a little to plyable and soft so I am going to switch over to a more rigid Lexan tube also made by Technical Supply (http://shop.technicaltattoosupply.com/mmTTS1/Images/dn.jpg) If you like the feel of Red Rats, I found a rubber "puzzle" grip that wraps around the stainless vise grip and locks much like a jigsaw puzzle piece. Also, claveable and comes right off without all the fuss. Both the rubber grip and the vise tube are very easy to clean and clave. No more 3 piece SS system! =) I agree the plastic tips take awhile to get used to but, after awhile you adapt. If anyone has any Q's about these hit me up mark@epicink.com. Maybe if I get a spare min, I can post a short vid on Facebook showing how easy they are to lock and load!


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by Andy Johnson on 02/11/10


All the locals around Columbus are swearing by these from Bicknee. I guess the plastic tube is lexan? Super stiff. and also transparent.

http://bicknee.com/shoppingcart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8_54&products_id=218

But I have yet to try them.

- Andy


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by minamismud95 on 02/11/10


i would have to agree with joe on the dps tubes. they are definitely the best disposables i have used


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by HST on 02/11/10


Disposables are a strange animal wen you're used to stainless.
With that being said, I have tried just about every type of disposable available when I was making the switch.
Most of the disposables on the market are made in China and are available from different distributors, but are the same. The black w/ the rubber grip, the light blue, the white... all the same or close enough to it.
Kingpin manufactures their own. These are nice. They are on the thinner side when it comes to the disposables so I find I have to hang my needle less w/ the liners allowing me to line more and dip less. I do use an extra rubber band when using these tubes as I find it helps my needle remain more stable. Their mag tubes are easy to work with and them being thin or thinner helps to get your mag right up to a line w/ ease.
National makes their own disposables, and though they are the more expensive, I find that they are the best... for me. They are light grey and feel solid. My machines run as close to using a metal tube as I have come w/ these tubes. Mixing colors in the tube also reminds me more of using stainless due to their coloration.
Unimax makes their own. I find the green ones a little too thick causing more needle hang. These are super sturdy, but act like a disposable in my opinion. They also make them in purple... the only difference is the purple one comes w/ a needle, the green do not.
The rubber grip disposables causes my machines to run WAY different... I'm not a huge fan though I will use them if need be.
I've never liked the light blue from Technical; or the basic white tubes we've all seen.
The clear blue from Good Guy are all oversized... I found a lot of spitting from these.
I have not tried the clear lexan tubes from Bicknee... but will be ordering some to check them out now based on the feedback above.


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by rhendrickson on 02/17/10


Who had inch and a quarter or inch and a half disposable tubes, besides good guy supply. Im used to using 1 inch metal tubes with rad rats. I want to ditch the autoclave completely. So no more ret rats. Please help


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by rhendrickson on 02/17/10


typing on my phone earlier i meant who has


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by jwood on 02/18/10


man i hate disposables they always seem to flex and the reason most of us use at least one inch grips is for the weight but i saw those twist grips that mark kidd was talking about and that seems to be the way to go if disposables are a must in your situation


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by London on 02/21/10


the black ones with the silicone grips are awful. the ones that Cam carries with the rubber grips are good but ya, the grips can slip off when dealing with the vice on your machines.

mike devries introduced me to Mithra's white disposables with one inch grips. its one piece, holds up well, and fits most machine vices with ease. I have been using them for a couple months and love them. i recommend them to anyone looking for a good disposable tube for sure.


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by ab on 02/21/10


i use the black disposables tube with the rubber n i m fine with it . i got no problem at all with it . i think is about the machine we use cos all machine got diff tube vice. with disposables r ok but it don really fit my machine well ...


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by rhendrickson on 02/21/10


if you like the mithra ones try needljig exact same ones but the plastic is a little harder, i always seem to snag the needles a bit with the mithra ones cause the plastic was so soft


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by Rob on 02/22/10


Somewhere in here i remember Gaston of FKI saying something about the disposables with stainless tips from mithra, anyway i just got some in and they run great. Ever use ss tip and tube with a nylon grip? They run pretty much the same. They are about $2 per tube so they're a little pricey, ultimately not worth depending on them solely, but great for conventions, those situations where you're in a pinch, ect. if you are looking for a good, quality disposable...give those a shot.


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by Rhenrickson on 02/27/10


So I finally took the plunge and switched, I didn't like the idea of no having a counter weight to my machines. Now after a week of using only disposables I find that I can line better with disposables and feel like there is more of feel of how the needle is hitting the skin compared to metal tubes wish I made switch a long time ago.


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RE:Disposable tubes again-Sorry

Posted by Tony Blades on 02/27/10


tatsupply and world wide have these black ones with tapered tips they rock


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