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silverback

Posted by joe p on 08/29/07


Anyone tried silverback grey wash ink set yet? www.silverbackink.com
Any thoughts?



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RE:silverback

Posted by dread on 08/29/07


i think its silly to pay for distilled water. you could easily mix up your own. just buy some empty bottles and go at it. just my opinion...


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RE:silverback

Posted by dread on 08/29/07


i think its silly to pay for distilled water. you could easily mix up your own. just buy some empty bottles and go at it. just my opinion...


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RE:silverback

Posted by rob on 08/29/07


that's why i won't buy it...just another way to make money.


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RE:silverback

Posted by aw8one on 08/30/07


just curious i know to dilute grey washes with distilled water but why do you do this exacly, for purity reasons or something else, and when do you use ummm i think its witch hasel or something to the sound of that?


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RE:silverback

Posted by Tdan on 08/30/07


It is a good ink. I like to use outlining KuroSumi and silverback ink to full range of black-n-grey works. Look at my works http://www.tdan.ru/eng/mimg/080822419f.jpg and http://www.tdan.ru/eng/mimg/070912142f.jpg


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RE:silverback

Posted by joe p on 08/30/07


I think the advantage for me would be taking the trial and error out of the whole premixing graywash solutions. And they say on the site that it is not pigment, but just ink. Does pure ink just disperse more evenly than watered down pigments?


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RE:silverback

Posted by Tdan on 08/30/07


May be... It seemed to me that Silverback more washable than KuroSumi greywash.


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RE:silverback

Posted by Al Roker on 08/30/07


a lot of speculation going on here, but I'm with joe in wanting primary sources who know how it works. anyone used it? I've been using the kuro sumi graywash and i want quicker ways to get more contrast. As for those saying they would rather just make their own mixture's. what ratio are you peeps using? (i use several blacks... kuro sumi, dermaglo, eternal lining and tribal black., so let me know what you are using) I could just spend a few hours figuring it out myself but y'know...


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RE:silverback

Posted by gareth on 09/02/07


i have been using silverback for a while now and it is like any greywash it has its uses. silverback is a very smooth tone of grey where as my talons has a almost fogginess to it which is good but they serve different purposes and gives you a different range of greys just like the difference between soba colours and mario barth's. hope this helps..


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RE:silverback

Posted by Markus on 09/03/07


I like the range... pours nice and easily and it eliminates one more thing to think about... they also wash very easily and give me a nice and controlled shade. It's also nice to have consistency on bigger pieces without having to premix my own washes which is a hassle... Having good results here.


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RE:silverback

Posted by joe p on 09/03/07


Thats what I'm talking about. I love doing really big fields of light gray. If silverback makes that easier, then I'm buying it.


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RE:silverback

Posted by al roker on 09/12/07


yeah, I got that shit. 20$ for four one ouncers, and right now I'm digging it. Saving massive time and i feel it's smoother than the Kuri.


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RE:silverback

Posted by joe p on 09/13/07


Thats all i needed...im buying it. -joe p


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RE:silverback

Posted by nak on 09/17/07


i went and hung out with Randy the other day at Hot Stuff Tattoo, he started silverback.... fucking great guy, he through out some cool ideas for silverback. dont limit it for use of black and grey only, different gradations of grey also help in staining your colors to wash them out, and also get a darker tone you can blend well, its fun to try, like if you use a sky blue with an x3 or x4 silverback, you get an interesting metal tone. so not only does it work for greys really well, it changes the way you approach color in certain tattoos.


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RE:silverback

Posted by Markus on 09/17/07


totally agree with nak on this i use it for muting colors all the time to create interessting background tones and shit... i normally use the x2 for muting light colours and x3 for darker and cool colors.


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RE:silverback

Posted by MarkKidd on 08/20/08


Thanks everyone. I personally prefer Pelican for greyshading. I've found many others that support and use it as well. I know Pelican is not always a favored ink by some (31 flavors of ice cream.. what do you like!). However, I have used it for 9 years with great success. I was pleasently surprised when I found out Tom Renshaw has been using it for years (per an interview I read recently on him). I don't like it for lining though, its too thin. I use Eternal, Kuro Sumi, or Starbright (depending on my mood). Any of which you can kick into overdrive with a tad of pure Indigo Black powder available from National. Just mix in for the blackest of black (one of my mentors old tricks).
In regards to the Pelican, I use it straight for my darkest black shade (remember its thin) then 50%, 25%, 10% mixes with distilled water accordingly. I just get empty 8oz bottles form the bulk section of the health food store and a reusable mixing bottle with percentages printed on it from the local beauty salon. Makes it real easy. Makes touch ups etc. consistent. Not as big a fuss as some may suggest.
As far as the Silverback's... I met Randy in Reno and bought his sample pack. Tried em' like em a lot but, not enough to drop the cash for them. Not that they aren't worth it, just that I have been able to acheive essentially the same for far less than a 1/16 of the cost. I use my Pelican shades to mute color tones too and really love doing this. You should try it if you havent already. Really helps make those tonal values pop! Thanks to all!


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RE:silverback

Posted by Gina on 08/20/08


I love Silverback and I think I'll continue to use it.

However, I think there's a lot more that can be utilized than the typical Black/4/3/2/1/ ratio. I like the idea of using Sumi with both black to darken it and either glycerine/distilled water or even WHITE to lighten it.

All kindsa stuff to think about. :)


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RE:silverback

Posted by Cookie18 on 10/29/09


Hey I use boiled water and let it cool, then i just use 6 ink cups, start off by dripping 1 drop from your normal black into the first cup, 2 into the 2nd on so on the top them up with water. There you have it now mix it with a tooth pick or you tattoo machine and let it run in the INK....


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RE:silverback

Posted by travelingtom on 10/30/09


"Hey I use boiled water " what is the purpose of using boiling water? why not use distilled water? then you dont have to go through the trouble of boiling it. unless you tattoo in a kitchen.


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RE:silverback

Posted by Solomon on 10/30/09


I used the mix my own bottle method and liked it to some degree, but Im not a big fan of the 50 25 10 method, I really think theres not much diff between some of them, and they never seem as smooth as Silverback. Whenever I use my own premixes I shape the piss out of them and still have this bit of anxiety like its not mixed all the way, or a big glob of black is gonna be stuck to my needle, and I must say its significant. When I started using Silverback I was shocked, at first I thought it was too light but as I got to use it more I really found there is a big difference to the consistancy of the solution that is Silverback and the mad scientist homemade stuff. There is never a feeling of the ink settling or whatnot with the silverback, I feel its a significantly superior product to making your own washes and the finished product is different enough i think its almost apples and oranges. The silverback heals out so much creamier looking than mix your own shit. The only way I can reproduce the look of silverback with out using it, is to work straight black to a point where I can get super light shades without diluting it first. I dont know if that makes sense to anyone else, but heh oh well it does to me!


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