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carlton machine

Posted by jacob on 04/18/08


i have just bought a joshua carlton machine, im having a few problems with it.
it is so unusual in terms of what i have always used for colouring and shading, i know it is possible of getting great results i just cant seem to get to grips with it. the problem is when healed (the healing proccess is fast and smooth) the ink falls out.
anyone else had problems getting used to this machine what did you do to devolp a better understanding?

p.s i know this problem is to do with me and not the machine Joshua makes great machines and produces amazing work.



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RE:carlton machine

Posted by joep on 04/18/08


i would buy his book if i were you. his machines are very diff from a standard shader. they are designed for a fast hand/layering color and grey wash. they are big mag specific, but work very well for smaller mags. once you get used the how the machine runs they are great. you might call joshua and let him give you an idea. -joep


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Posted by jess on 04/18/08


i would email josh and try to get a little advice from him. i dont think his book describes things very well.


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by jess on 04/18/08


his dvds might be usefull to you if you dont already have them.


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by aw8one on 04/19/08


I have read tidbits of info on the net on how he runs his machine. Ive ajusted my machines with a super small gap and seen huge improvments in smoothing out my black and grey. However my machines have pretty stiff springs. Any pointers on a machine that hits super fast and soft. I would like to get a machine to use such as maybe a liner to use in this fashion.


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by Rampage on 04/19/08


His machine actually runs too slow for me. Even with the small gap it only runs around 105hz. I use a Next Generation half coil set up the same way that runs around 125hz (loaded) and I find it much easier to get really smooth B&G.


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by jacob on 04/19/08


i have the dvd`s and book, my work all looks good when fresh but ink falls out when healing?
i havent had this problem since i began 3 years ago, i use a pulse solution so as can see stroke is larger and harder hitting, the way joshua works feels so alien but i really want to broaden my skills. thanks for the advice


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by joep on 04/20/08


aw8one- you can bend your back spring down a little bit to relieve some of the tension. that will make your machine hit softer and work better for what you are after. and as far as a machine that runs the way you described...just buy a carlton shader. -joep


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by scott76 on 04/26/08


You have to ask yourself if his machines are that good why does he use next gens and not his own machines, but he is one of the best at what he does


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by john on 04/26/08


i dont believe that you say tha carlton use next G. machines

it´s true?


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by scott76 on 04/26/08


Or its true i have seen it for my self at a convention and that was just last year, and i know people who know him and have worked with him, and i am not been a hate'r cos i build machine's the man is a talent and a half


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by petetatzon on 04/26/08


I have a Carlton shader,I use it for round 15 mags and hate to put it down.It took a couple of times to get the hang of it as they are different.Email me if you need further advice, as we may need to use pictures in order to set you in the right direction.


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by joep on 04/26/08


the next gens are still tuned the exact same way as his machines. also..and i dont know this for a fact, but at one convention(which i cant remember) he won a set of next gens for tat of the day or something like that. that might explain it. it might not. im just speculating.-joep


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by Durango on 04/26/08


He tattooed me with a Next Gen


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by daddyos on 04/28/08


Next gen gives him machines. Last time I talked to him, he said he was sick of retuning them all the time...so he doesn't use them any more.


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by petetatzon on 04/28/08


As I have already mentioned I have a Carlton shader,I also have a NextGen shader.The two machines are totally different,geometry,voltage,stroke,that said, how on earth can they then be tuned the same?


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by jess on 04/29/08


easily. i have a next gen tuned that way and its killer.


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by petetatzon on 04/29/08


Jess,are you saying then that you've altered your NextGen to run same as a Carlton machine?What I'm saying is that my NextGen and my Carlton shader are both exactly as I recieved them and are such two very different types of shader,I'm not saying one couldn't be altered to be like the other.
It's a shame we can't post pictures here, we could have a great and useful dialogue on this issue.


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by jess on 04/29/08


yes i did alter the next gens spring tension and stroke length. i think i must have misunderstood you. next gens come set up very different than a carlton.


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by joep on 04/29/08


right...you can tune any well built machine to run any way you want it too. -joep


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RE:carlton machine

Posted by Joshua Carlton on 04/30/08


Hey, guys, to clear things up, I have a crazy amount of machines , when I was trying to figure out what works best for me I went on a buying spree! As Joe mentioned I won a few next Gen machines at a convention and started using them, I used them almost exclusively for about a year untill I really got heavy in to building my own machines, I have since put all of the othe machines on the shelf and use only the machines I have built. There are some great builders out there and I sometimes will use there machines especially at a show to check them out or whatever. I just feel that for the way I aproach a tattoo my machine work best for me. but please check out machines from several builders to see what suits your style. I personally have found buying direct from artist /builders is really your best bet. thanks-Joshua


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