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Rubber band Question

Posted by mozzer337 from IP: 92.40.36.254 on 09/07/11
Manchester, Lancashire United Kingdom - website


Hi. Im new to the forum, so a big hello to all. Been lurking for a while but eventually registered now. I have my own health registered basement studio in the UK and i'd consider myself to be a competent artist, and with what I would consider average ability compaired to artists in my area (better than some, as good as most, but inferior to others), but every day I yearn to learn more, so the decision was made to register and talk with knowledgeable people, because as we all know, there is a lot of bad information on the web!!!

So I thought i'd start off with a little issue that niggles me at the moment. As we all know in splatter, whether it be from the tip, or sometimes the top, of the tube can be consistent with rubber bands not holding the needle 'true' in the tube. I was just wondering whether bands generally lose their strength over long periods, resulting in a poor running machine due to needle movement, and do any of you guys change the bands during a tattoo??

Just recently i've added an extra band on my machines (Paco Rollins semi mag liner, and a Paco rollins brass j frame shader) To try and reduce this issue when it occurs. The Rollins machines seem to require more volts than im used to, and because of this I have my suspicion that when the bands lose strength the power of the machine on higher volts is causing the needle to rattle in the tube rather than stay true at the back of tip.

I aint had the machines long and I love them, but I
Just wondered if any of you guys have had this issue and how you rectified it??



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Posted by ghettobeast from IP: 96.233.25.13 on 09/07/11
boston, ma United States - website


you should be changing your rubber bands with every tattoo and not giving them a chance to lose strength..especially if your getting splatter up the tube!! even if you cant see it, those bands are being contaminated along with the front of your machine with microscopic particles.


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RE:Rubber band Question

Posted by mozzer337 from IP: 90.193.147.151 on 09/07/11
Manchester, Lancashire United Kingdom - website


Thanks for the reply. I do change my bands every tattoo. I just wondered would there be circumstances where it would be benefical to change them more frequently. IE during a tattoo.


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Posted by James See from IP: 71.199.196.86 on 09/07/11
Knoxville, TN United States - website


I can't think of any reason why it would be necessary to change rubber bands during a tattoo. Unless, of course, one breaks. :)


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RE:Rubber band Question

Posted by Mystic from IP: 210.185.12.120 on 09/08/11
Napier, Hawkes Bay New Zealand - website


The rubber band can soften and loose its original tension if the coils are getting over warm, I have even seen them melt! So if that's happening with your machines then you would need to change them out or insulate them from the coil. If this is not happening then I can't see any reason to change them during a tattoo.


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rubber bands

Posted by chris van r from IP: 58.164.213.46 on 09/08/11
Yeppoon, Qld Australia - website


don't know if this is your issue...if your buying rubber bands in bulk, over time they can loose their elasticity and eventually become brittle. even though they're cheap, i don't buy them in over 1000 at a time so i can cycle through them faster.


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RE:Rubber band Question

Posted by mozzer337 from IP: 92.41.147.123 on 09/09/11
Manchester, Lancashire United Kingdom - website


Thanks for all the replies. I have started putting 3 bands on, and that seems to be helping. I have retuned my machines to run at a lesser voltage. Being Paco Rollins machines they came with a fair amount of back spring pressure. At times they needed 12 volts to push ink!!
The coils didnt get hot, just slightly warm, but because of the amount of volts the coils needed to work at, I was wondering whether the cycle was too 'violent' so to speak, and that could be weakening them. Managed to get em running at 8-9 volts now so hoping this will help also.


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RE:Rubber band Question

Posted by Jerry San Martin from IP: 97.90.0.219 on 06/25/12
South El Monte , Ca United States - website


Its critical that the needles run flat on the tube tip. Also if they are worn and have grooves, you can use a file to smooth out the grooves or use a new tube. Check out my site: www.SanMartinTattoo.com


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